The latest attempts to use Trump to tarnish conservatism more broadly

There’s a word you may be hearing more often in political discussions: “normalize.” It’s popular among those who refuse to treat Donald Trump as a “normal” president-elect with legitimate policies and positions, rather than some kind of irredeemable bigot.

As a conservative who didn’t vote for Trump, I recognize there are reasons to be wary of him. But I’ve noticed this effort on the left to reject him has also crossed over into ab-normalizing some mainstream beliefs on the right, as represented by Trump’s cabinet picks.

Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt arrives at Trump Tower in New York on Wednesday. (John Taggart/Pool/Sipa USA/TNS)

Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt arrives at Trump Tower in New York on Wednesday. (John Taggart/Pool/Sipa USA/TNS)

Consider the reaction to Trump’s selection of Scott Pruitt, Oklahoma’s attorney general, to lead the Environmental Protection Agency. Pruitt has been derided as a climate change “denier,” a slur that intentionally echoes the label given those who do not believe the Holocaust took place.

What evidence is there that Pruitt “denies” climate change? The focus, from a New York Times story about his appointment on down to a blog post on Greenpeace’s website, is on this section of an op-ed Pruitt co-authored this year in the National Review:

“(G)lobal warming has inspired one of the major policy debates of our time. That debate is far from settled. Scientists continue to disagree about the degree and extent of global warming and its connection to the actions of mankind. That debate should be encouraged — in classrooms, public forums, and the halls of Congress. It should not be silenced with threats of prosecution. Dissent is not a crime.”

So, Pruitt’s “denial” appears to be pointing out there is debate. Not about whether global warming is real, or whether mankind contributes to it, but only about “the degree and extent” of these things.

Importantly, Pruitt didn’t offer this argument about a particular environmental policy or proposal. Rather, he was criticizing Democratic state attorneys general for threatening to sue companies that dare to disagree about the “degree and extent” of man-made global warming. One need not be a “denier,” or even a Republican, to see this is an abuse of prosecutorial power.

Then there is Andy Puzder, the fast-food executive Trump tapped to be labor secretary. Puzder’s thought-crime is disagreeing with progressivists’ push for a national minimum wage of $15 an hour.

As head of a company whose restaurants include Hardee’s, Puzder argues such a move would lead to job losses as firms instead replaced human workers with machines. It’s an argument echoed by a number of economists, particularly those with a conservative bent.

The Labor Department’s mission is, among other things, to further “the welfare” of workers and those seeking work. Backing a proposal that could kill jobs may not serve that mission; opposing it certainly doesn’t disqualify one from fulfilling it. It’s just a different approach, albeit one some folks on the left want to “abnormalize.”

Betsy DeVos, nominated to be education secretary, draws progressivists’ ire because she believes in choices for students and competition for schools. Tom Price, the Georgian appointed to lead Health and Human Services, is similarly branded unfit because he holds the conservative belief that government involvement is what ails our health system.

These are not the kind of beliefs that should banish their holders from serving their country. They are the kind of beliefs held by voters who gave Trump more than 300 electoral votes, maintained Republican majorities in Congress and kept the GOP in charge of most state governments.

They just might be more “normal” than some people want to admit.

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Stephenson_Billings
Stephenson_Billings

Repealing Obamacare is A Giant Middle Class Tax Cut


"Doing so will not only repeal a failed law that has resulted in skyrocketing premiums, cancelled healthcare plans, and billions in new, wasteful spending, it will also provide a giant tax cut to middle class Americans.


Obamacare imposed roughly one trillion in higher taxes over ten years, including at least seven that directly hit middle class families. Repealing these taxes will provide much needed relief to the paychecks of families across the country.


Repealing Obamacare will also undo Barack Obama’s broken promise not to sign “any form of tax increase” on any American making less than $250,000."


http://www.atr.org/repealing-obamacare-giant-middle-class-tax-cut

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

If this is a question of protecting the United States and an act of warfare, as some loons have suggested, they why did they not act immediately against those who pilfered hillary's emails? They spent a year or more covering up and ignoring even the possibility that she could have been hacked. The investigations should have been opened in 2015, why is everybody so hot for them now, all of a sudden?


False flag, anyone?

MarkVV
MarkVV

@AndyManUSA#45 Is this a joke? You cannot be serious, can you?

First, this is not about the infamous “Hillary’s e-mails, but about the hacked e-mails of DNC and people like Podesta. Nobody ever doubted that those e-mails have been hacked. Second, there is that little thing called “evidence,” which takes time to collect; even now, it has become more of an accumulation of indicators that convinced the CIA of what has happened. 

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

He had already been deeply dismissive of their work, refusing to receive the daily intelligence briefings that are standard for presidents-elect because, as he explained it on Fox News this weekend, he’s already “smart”  and doesn’t need to sit through the briefings. 


http://jaybookman.blog.myajc.com/2016/12/12/trump-would-rather-defend-his-own-ego-than-defend-the-country/


I watched the entire interview. So did a lot of other people. Trump said, verbatim, that the daily briefing is exactly the same thing everyday. And, that if anything should change, to tell him immediately, that he is available in one minutes notice. What Trump said was very reasonable, why should he waste his time listening to the same thing he heard yesterday?


Now look at the way bookman has twisted this^^. Not even close to the truth. Why would anyone believe anything else that comes out of this dudes mouth? It can't be more obvious he has an agenda. He has absolutely no credibility nor does he even care if he does.


This is not professionalism.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

You know, I could be wrong, maybe people like bookman and obama do need to be told the same thing over and over again so they don't forget it. 


Never mind.

Dimick
Dimick

Is Kyle playing hookey, again!? 

RidgecrestDawg
RidgecrestDawg

LOL. Intelligence? Who needs that? The CIA sucks! 


Quick reminder Kyle, Trump is the GOP's. Conservatives nominated him and then elected him. 


No asterisks.  He's yours. 


Hopefully we'll all be able to look back on this in four years and laugh. 



lvg
lvg

"""""Ohio school officials and education experts are waiting to see what President-Elect Trump’s choice for Secretary of Education will mean in a state that pioneered school vouchers. 

Billionaire Betsy DeVos is a longtime school choice advocate. She has some history in Ohio.  10 years ago her All Children Matter PAC tried to launder illegally funneled campaign money for school choice and was fined over 5 million dollars by the Ohio Elections Commission. """


http://wcbe.org/post/trumps-education-secretary-nominee-has-troubled-past-ohio


No problem for cons.

lvg
lvg

Trump getting the Russians to assist with the election is no different than Reagan illegally partnering up with the Iranians before and during his administration. Notice how Trump and GOP  don't mention sanctions against Russia  unless they are condemning Obama.  

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Obama and the Democrats/MSM were not concerned when it was revealed that Hillary used a private email server to conduct State Department business. James Comey reported that the use of the private email server endangered our national security. Obama corresponded with Hillary and thus knew about her use of the private email server. Yet Obama did not order the CIA to investigate if foreign governments hacked Hillary’s emails to obtain State Department communications. Nor did the Democrats and their allies in the MSM hit the Sunday TV shows to demand such investigations.


For those of you unable to think critically, obama was not at all concerned that the Russians could be hacking our national security secrets but is now concerned that they could have hacked an election that his party lost.


I know you will probably have to lie down and let it all sink in,  so go ahead. Take your time.


http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/12/obamas_email_problem.html


LOCK HER UP!

MarkVV
MarkVV

@AndyManUSA#45 "obama was not at all concerned that the Russians could be hacking our national security secrets"

And you now that - how? Are you privy to the President's concerns?

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

As to the second, as I noted here, there is little the Russians could conclude from eight years of dealing with Obama and Clinton that would suggest that Trump would be an easier mark than Hillary.  From the abortive and ridiculous Russian "reset" to the failure to put defensive missiles in eastern Europe to the Crimean annexation plus additional aggression in Ukraine to the Iran nuclear agreement and the practical rout of American interests in Syria and the eastern Mediterranean, operating against Obama and Clinton has been a veritable boon.  What could possibly make the Russians think they could do better than batting 1,000?


http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/12/fake_news_the_cia_says_russia_preferred_trump.html


If you have any liberals on your Christmas gift giving list, I suggest this thoughtful and practical choice to place under their tree.


https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Logic-Reasoning-Twenty-First-Century/dp/019515505X

RPG7301
RPG7301

@AndyManUSA#45 What could possibly make the Russians think they could do better than batting 1,000?

Two words: Fewer sanctions.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

"Calling Jill Stein. Calling Jill Stein. Where are you, Jill Stein? We have to, um, investigate the Rooskies and we need some of our money back. Where are you, Jill?"


"Jill?"


LOCK HER UP!

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Free speech, free exercise of religion, free markets, freedom to choose your child's school...those are normal. It's a shame that has to be pointed out, but that's where we are after eight years of liberal fascism.

Progressives are the enemy of freedom.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@Lil_Barry_Bailout

Your support for your fuhrer exposes the extent of your hypocrisy:


Washington, D.C. ­– U.S. Senators John McCain (R-AZ), Chairman of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, Charles E. Schumer (D-NY), Senate Democratic Leader-elect, and Jack Reed (D-RI), Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services released the following joint statement today in response to news reports on the CIA’s analysis of Russian interference with the 2016 election:

“For years, foreign adversaries have directed cyberattacks at America’s physical, economic, and military infrastructure, while stealing our intellectual property. Now our democratic institutions have been targeted. Recent reports of Russian interference in our election should alarm every American.

“Congress’s national security committees have worked diligently to address the complex challenge of cybersecurity, but recent events show that more must be done.  While protecting classified material, we have an obligation to inform the public about recent cyberattacks that have cut to the heart of our free society. Democrats and Republicans must work together, and across the jurisdictional lines of the Congress, to examine these recent incidents thoroughly and devise comprehensive solutions to deter and defend against further cyberattacks.

“This cannot become a partisan issue. The stakes are too high for our country. We are committed to working in this bipartisan manner, and we will seek to unify our colleagues around the goal of investigating and stopping the grave threats that cyberattacks conducted by foreign governments pose to our national security.”

RoadScholar
RoadScholar

@Eye wonder @Lil_Barry_Bailout I wonder if Trump would believe the CIA if they determined a plot existed to kill him? "No, I'm too great to be killed"? Does he only listen to the voices in his head?

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@Lil_Barry_Bailout @Eye wonder "On Obama's watch" 


These were Republican servers. These were Democrat servers. 


These were not servers owned nor operated by the United States government. 


Foreign governments are still trying to hack into US government servers as well, but please look into what actually happened. 


If you are actually outraged, be outraged with Russia, not Obama. 

Dimick
Dimick

Global warming threatens the lives of Rudolf and his reindeer pals. 

 

Dimick
Dimick

A fatal flaw exist in the overall game plan of the Anthropic climate change community, apart from their obvious desire to enact "caps and trades" to begin collecting the carbon tax, is they have no replacement for the carbon based economy e.g. to fuel the cars we drive, the power we require to heat and cool our home and factories in the present commercial amounts we depend on now and will depend on in the future. 

The closes - unacceptable - thing we have that can fill the vacuum left in a total departure from fossil fuels is nuclear generated energy.

Secretary of State John Carry in his bid for the White House had planed or wanted to use nuclear generated power as the replacement to fossil fuels, all that held him back on that idea was the storage problem with the waste. Professor Peter Morici in his testimony at the auto makers request for a bailout , said to get off of fossil fuels the President would have to have a stern talk with the American people - about nuclear generated power - to produce electricity to power the type  cars we would need to turn to. Well, Elon Musk has the Tesla, Nissan has the Leaf. To date The Leaf seems the most practical commercially available car  for the general public. Of course, for the vast majority of Americans to chunk their gas burners in for an electric car would mean we, as the Professor stated, would have turn to nuclear generated power  in order fill the electrical power demand. To date we lack the capacity to sufficiently meet such a demand. 

Until the global climate change fanatics can come up with a viable replacement plan, not a global tax scam, that will hurt the poorest of the poor. All they are doing is making a loud noise in a room that is in serious solutions minus the noise globally. 

MarkVV
MarkVV

@Dimick The fatal flaw of this drivel is neatly summarized in the following:

The closes [sic]- unacceptable - thing we have that can fill the vacuum left in a total departure from fossil fuels is nuclear generated energy.

No serious person calls for “total departure from fossils fuels” in the near future. No educated person assumes that no technological advances will be made in the more distant future to answer the amateurish objections in the above comment. And no rational person thinks the profits of the fossil fuel industry more important that the existential threat of anthropogenic (not “Anthropic”) climate change.

Ragbatz
Ragbatz

Pruitt, and now Winfield, grossly misstated the nature of the criminal investigation proposed by those Democratic attorneys general of several states.  None of these AGs proposed that energy industry personnel should be found criminally responsible for thought crimes or for "dissent". What the AG's were investigating were claims that the companies themselves misrepresented or suppressed the findings of their own research departments. 


If an Exxon representative says, "It is our opinion that fossil fuels do not contribute to global warming.", that's a matter of opinion. 


If an Exxon representative says, "Our research proves that fossil fuels do not contribute to global warming." or "We have seen no evidence that fossil fuels lead to global warming", that's a representation of fact.


If that representation is false, knowingly made, and made in connection with a governmental proceeding such as a legislative or administrative hearing, an administrative rule-making, or a judicial trial, that would be indeed be fraud. Governmental decision makers are entitled to truthful representations of factual questions by energy industry spokespersons. 


There is certainly a smear campaign at work here: Pruitt's claim that a group of AG's sought to make dissent a crime tarnishes public officials without justification. 


By misrepresenting the AG's action as a criminalization of dissent, Pruitt diverted attention from evidence that showed both (a) that some of the fossil fuel industry's own research found a strong causal connection between fossil fuels and global warming and (b) that industry officials had indeed misrepresented or suppressed those findings. 


Rather than join fellow attorneys general in investigating the validity and truthfulness with which the fossil fuel industry had dealt with state governments, Pruitt chose to attack his fellow attorney generals with an unfair charge of abuse. 


Having chosen in this manner to defend literal climate change denial, is Pruitt himself a climate change denier?  Close enough.







Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

You are the one in denial. Leftists are not being shy about admitting their desire to silence and prosecute skeptics. This fascist behavior makes Real Americans sick. Keep your climate extremism off Our First Amendment.

Ragbatz
Ragbatz

@Lil_Barry_Bailout And Our Declaration of Independence warns of "pretended offenses". Rebroadcasting Pruitt's slur of the AGs, per Winfield, or repeating it with added epithet, per L_B_B, does not make it more true. It remains entirely reasonable for state attorneys general to investigate whether the fossil fuel industry deliberately misrepresented consequential matters of fact to state governmental entities. 

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Right, that's why they call themselves "AGs United for Clean Power"...because they're only concerned about alleged misrepresented consequential matters.

Ragbatz
Ragbatz

@Lil_Barry_Bailout AGs are free to work on behalf of interests in their states, whether the are "united for clean power" OR "united for clean coal".  If any AG has significant evidence that either a fossil fuel company OR an environmental group misrepresented their own in-house research to state governmental entities, they should investigate and, as needed, prosecute - without being accused of criminalizing dissent or of fascism.

bu22
bu22

@Lil_Barry_Bailout Liberals believe freedom of speech is good as long it is speech they approve of.  Otherwise it is a criminal act.  I guess the only "true" liberals left in this country are in the Republican party.

bu22
bu22

@Ragbatz @Lil_Barry_Bailout They are working on behalf of their party to silence opposition and criminalize normal politics and opinions.  The Democrats are a dangerous threat to our freedoms.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

It's worth a few minutes but no more than that to laugh at the jackazz crybabies over on the left wing neighboring blog. Geez, some over there will probably slit their wrists during Trumps first term.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Yes, two weeks on the job, not even sworn in yet and Trump has uncovered the 4 billion dollar Air Force One and F-35 program boondoggles. Duties such as these normally would fall upon the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, who, in this case, would be john mccain. But john seems to be busy with other things instead of taking care of the tax payers hard earned dollars. Like chasing after black helicopters, for instance.


Or maybe he was bought off by Boeing?


Crazy or corrupt, which one do you think?


LOCK HER UP!

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

@SGTGrit If they were found to be negligent in their duties, that would constitute manslaughter, wouldn't it? It could even be 2nd degree murder, according to circumstances.


It's time to put all these libs where they belong, behind bars.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Mr. Obama told CNN in an interview that aired late Wednesday, “The ability of ISIL to not just mass inside of Syria, but then to initiate major land offensives that took Mosul [in Iraq], for example, that was not on my intelligence radar screen.”


Yes, the same people that have the mystical ability to read Vladimir Putin's mind were too dumb to notice the hordes pouring over the syrian border into Iraq.


So I guess this means no one will have an issue with Trump firing every last one of them at 12:00 noon on January the 20th, 2017. We can all watch, as they come flying out the doors of the CIA, skidding along the pavement on their a$$e$, like the cartoon characters they really are.


LOCK HER UP!



Dimick
Dimick

@AndyManUSA#45 

Did you hear what dear leader said about ISIL not on his radar screen?

Dimick
Dimick

The Republicans... Tom Price and Paul Ryan, should be careful in their haste to rip apart Obamacare at any cost as fast as they can. The idea of getting rid the ACA and waiting somewhere down the line to replace it with what will probably be junk, shall likely paint themselves and the recipients of it into a precarious corner, they and the rest of us, mostly likely will not be able to walkout of. The Democrats already have threaten if the Republicans repeal Obamacare or change any part of the ACA they will own it. 

First, the Republicans should take all tax subsidies given out by the federal government to buy health care into one Federal funding system, where all the recipients are subsidized individually, separate from not through a company a union or an organization, based on an individual's income in relation to what is available in the national market to any and everyone, since the State lines will no longer exist for the insurance to sale policies, so there can be no debate over fairness or access.

Secondly, to assure competitions in the health care marketplace, thereby lowering prices charged by insurers of drugs through their polices or purchased directly by the individual, all FDA approved drugs, made or sold anywhere in the world shall be allowed and made available for re-importation and purchase by the individual purchasers. This re-importation rule shall apply equally to any and all approved medical devices which any State licensed doctor prescribes to an individual in the course of treatment.   

Thirdly everyone who receives a federal pretax supplement for the purchase of insurance shall establish their own individual HSA to pay for the purchase of healthcare insurance or OTC medical products.  For the scoring on income tax due on the adjusted taxable income or  MAGI shall no longer apply to those on Social Security and Medicare their benefits shall follow the IRS rules, which cuts their taxable amount in half of the gross SS Medicare monetary benefit amounts of most retirees collect in monthly or yearly benefits. 

Fourthly, any retiree drawing their SS benefits who is on Medicare will have the option to buy private health insurance outside of Medicare: if they are one, stupid or two so stupidly rich they can afford to be self-insuring. 

Fifthly, all health care savings accounts are eligible for or to an individuals heirs or designee.

Fifthly, the pre-condtion rule, age rules, cancellation of benefits for exceeding insurer policy cost caps or balance billing for exceeding what the insurance company pays for a procedure shall b prohibited.

Sixth, no funds shall be used for the purpose of having an abortion or purchasing abortive drugs e.g. precluding only in the cases of rape incest gross malformations of the fetus or threat to the life of the mother. 

Seventh, all government works shall receive funds to buy health care for themselves and their families under this law. 

Eighth, Hospitals shall receive money from block grants give to the States to cover indigents

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

McCain called for a select committee to further investigate the extent of Russia’s influence and intentions.


“I would like in an ideal world to have a select committee,” he said, adding that he would hope such a committee would be made up of leaders on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Foreign Relations Committee and Armed Services Committee.


With all of the issues that the people of the United States needs their government to be working on, kook mccain takes up chasing after black helicopters with his fellow loons.


Term limits, indeed.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-mccain-donald-trump-russia-hacking-response/


LOCK HER UP!


SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@AndyManUSA#45 

Respect his service to the country as a combat aviator and his years as a POW in North Vietnam but as a United States senator, not so much.

Dimick
Dimick

Putin, as it appears, knows and understands how we elect the President in our "REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC" where the progressive socialists don't.

Trump has the plurality of the Electoral College Delegate vote.

For those who long for a Democracy, moved to Europe and join the socialist in their form of government. 

We remain a Republic, Mr Franklin.  

Dimick
Dimick

Think the Democrats will ever stop crying?  A "Few" of their members in Congress have seen the conservative populist light... join or die on the vine political. 

MarkVV
MarkVV

Putin’s power is still limited, While he managed to get his candidate in the US presidential election to win, he failed to get him the plurality of votes cast.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Hillary lost because she's dishonest and corrupt, because she's a smug a-orifice who looks down on anyone who isn't a coastal elite, and because she made clear she believes she's above the law. Very few people saw any news at all regarding Wikileaks or Podesta emails. Just your excuse du jour.

Dimick
Dimick

Did Chuck Todd ever identify the source of his claims that  Rhince Perbus asked him to after confirming the Russian hacked the DNC but not the RNC?

More of Hillary's false news.  :)

lvg
lvg

Fascists like  Andyman love to do political arrests and killings without due process. Locking up political opponents without evidence or due process suits them fine.That fascist in Manila is making a sport of killing people with zero due process. He is one of 

our new fascist leader's heroes.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

@lvg liberals have become pathetic. Hollowed out. Cry babies. Thumb suckers.