Dear liberals: Here are some virtues you might find handy very soon

To my liberal friends:

I know you’re disappointed as this week draws to a close. You not only didn’t want Donald Trump to win the election, you hadn’t seriously considered the possibility he might. I know exactly how you feel, having felt it four years ago and eight years ago (minus the delusion about the other side having zero chance of winning). And now you’re recoiling at seeing this:

Stephen Crowley / The New York Times

Stephen Crowley / The New York Times

Yet, a new era can be a time for turning over new leaves, and you have just such an opportunity now. Certain things you’re feeling are no doubt strange — maybe distantly reminiscent, as if you just might have felt them prior to Nov. 4, 2008 — but I encourage you to indulge a few of them to the fullest. (No, not that one. Put down your “Trump = Hitler” sign. Put it down!)

  • Skepticism of executive power: You’re imagining President Trump (sorry: trigger warning! — did I do that right?) signing all manner of executive orders about immigration, financial regulations, environmental policy, and it makes you want to ask: What gives him the right? Can he really do that? What does the Constitution say? Welcome to the club! Some of us have been asking that for almost eight years, a few of us even longer. The short answer is: He might not be able to do that, except to the extent he’s rescinding a previous executive’s orders. (I realize this might not leave you with much to hang onto from the past several years. Sorry …)
  • Limits on federal power: You may find yourself asking what gives Trump the right to tell cities they can’t be sanctuaries for illegal immigrants. What happened to federalism? Shouldn’t more decisions be left to state and local governments? Yes, yes they should. Let’s talk more about that sometime, maybe over a picnic lunch next to that dry creek bed on your uncle’s farm which the current administration declared a “waterway” subject to federal oversight.
  • Protecting the loyal opposition via the filibuster: I realize eight years (Jan. 2007 to Jan. 2015) is a long time to be totally against a parliamentary procedure as an affront to the wisdom of the Founders (whose views should totally not be considered when judges interpret the Constitution, natch) and the end of self-government as we know it — only to turn around and defend it to the death now. But hey, at least you got it right in the end! It is true that the Senate doesn’t need to act like the simple majoritarian body the House does. That said, don’t be surprised to see some of your own, ahem, innovations concerning the filibuster ca. 2007-2015 being put to use in the near future.

I could go on, but those few newly fervent beliefs are a good start. Repeat these things over and over: Checks and balances … a limited central government … gridlock is good. If you forget any of them, wander on over the conservative side, where you’ll hear some of us repeating them, too.

Just make sure you commit them to more than short-term memory.

Sincerely,

KW

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AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Predictably, the legacy “news” media have already embarked upon a propaganda campaign designed to convince the public that the law is essentially impervious to repeal. The Washington Post portentously warns, “Donald Trump is about to face a rude awakening over Obamacare.” One Los Angeles Timesheadline declares, “Despite Republican pledges, ‘repealing Obamacare’ will be almost impossible.” My favorite is this howler from Politico, “Obamacare defenders vow ‘total war’.” The editors of these and many other establishment publications are like those Japanese soldiers who periodically emerge from Pacific island caves, refusing to believe that World War II is over and that their side lost.


https://spectator.org/obamacare-repeal-trump-has-a-mandate/



Speaking of periodically emerging from their caves, good morning lvg! You can go home now, dude, the war is over.


lvg
lvg

So 'the wall" is now becoming a fence and the deportation force will only go after convicts and sanctuary cities. Trump  devotees are not disappointed . They know Orange Clown will fulfill  hid promises.


Starik
Starik

@lvg Well, he's going to be the President. He also says he will let children stay on their parent's health insurance, and make health insurance companies accept people with pre-existing conditions. Good. The Chief of Staff will be conservative but not crazy. These are hopeful signs.

Classof98
Classof98

@lvg  Liberals and the media took Trump literally but not seriously.  Trump supporters took him seriously but not literally.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

There will be no more clowning around, at the expense of the tax payers, while you suffer.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Trump, 60 minutes; Allow me to lead into my main point. Which statement better reflects someone who believes that all people are created equal-


1) I'm college educated and smarter than you, so shut up.


2) I know how to run the government and you don't.


3) I'm a simple man.


The more I get to know about this guy, the more he amazes me. Going on to 60 minutes, into the lair of the pompous know it all elite class and admitting, without any qualms, that he is just a simple man. He subtracted himself from elitism. There is no bragging in this. There is only the promise that he will do the best job that he can, without any thought of himself.


Also, 


a) He will accept no salary


b) He will take no vacations


c) He does not care about his hotel occupancy rates, the job before him is much bigger than that.


We have a man that puts his country first, there is no doubt about that. And that is all we can ask for.



SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Yes, the Trump, appointment of Preibus and Bannon, portends a very conservative administration.

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit At least he appointed the lunatic Bannon as an "advisor"  Give him a salary and office, and some crossword puzzles.

lvg
lvg

@Starik @SGTGrit Every GOP administration needs a top level adviser who can promote bigotry, racism and anti-semitism.

Starik
Starik

@lvg @Starik @SGTGrit We'll have to see what happens. We can't do anything about the Trump/Clinton election but can we fix the process so that we have a better choice next time?

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Trump, forged his management skills in the private sector. I think the American people will witness the difference between a private sector executive and the career politicians without true management experience. Yes, time for term limitations in congress. Career politicians have been bad for our country. This historic moment in our history may usher in a new paradigm in American politics.

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit Trump is to businessmen as McArthur was to General Officers. Much drama.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

I typed into google the words "who will be the new leader of the RNC" and absolutely nothing came back. The establishment hasn't even figured out what has happened yet. I was thinking, a while back, that Sarah would be a perfect fit for the job but now I'm wondering if Lewandowski doesn't get it. 


Either way, I'm good with it. Our new president is brilliant.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

At least some of the liberal posters understand that Trump, won this election fairly by the rules. The mandate argument means nothing because Trump, at least has a mandate from his voters to pursue his own stated agenda. He certainly has no mandate to continue the failed Obama agenda. As for the popular vote we don't elect our presidents by a popular vote that some wishfully think should be the case because our government was formed as a republic and not as a pure democracy. So the country moves on.

stogiefogey
stogiefogey

@SGTGrit  Most people understand that the Dems would've been just fine with the electoral college had their girl won via that route. The "popular vote" clamor is just sore loser talk.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit SGTGrit keeps repeating his argument about popular vote "because our government was formed as a republic and not as a pure democracy," which just shows that some people are incapable of thinking and learning. 

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Reince Priebus named Trump’s chief of staff


Yes and now it is time to install an outsider at the RNC and begin the process of eliminating the establishment types from America's political party.


Brilliant.



SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@IReportYouWhine 

Priebus, was an excellent choice. He's well liked in Washington and that should bode well for a Trump, administration.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

The gravy train is about to have its wheels blown off and its engine completely ripped from its bearings, because there is just no reason to keep this consultant lobbyist... axis at such a level where people feel like their interests are not being served. 


Part of the rigged corrupt system that he was giving voice to was the one we heard from voters. They don't appreciate all the organs and adjuncts of Washington, D.C. working against them. This is an administration for the forgotten man and woman. Nobody thinks of lobbyists and consultants as the forgotten man or forgotten woman.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/13/kellyanne_conway_under_trump_administration_gravy_train_of_washington_corruption_comes_to_an_end.html



It's a whole new world, America.

jhgm63
jhgm63

It was kind of funny listening to Kellyanne Conway say that it is up to Clinton and Obama to stop the protesters. I thought she wanted Clinton in jail and Obama sent back to Kenya. Sorry, it is your problem now, you figure out how to deal with it.

MarkVV
MarkVV

The fact that Hillary has won the popular votes has provoked a debate here and elsewhere. But the issue has three very different aspects, a fact some feebleminded people on this blog have failed to grasp.

1.The validity of Trump’s election. This one is the simplest aspect. Trump has won the Presidency under the existing rules, Hillary has lost. Case closed. Any ideas about reversing that result are pure fantasy.

2.The significance of Hillary’s popular vote victory. The issue is what is often called “mandate.” There is no doubt that the Republicans cannot claim that they have an overwhelming support for their policies, when half of the population voted for an opponent representing different ideas and goals.

3.The rightfulness of the electoral college system. Right at the start it must be realized that this discussion is “philosophical” and “academic.” The chance to change the system in any foreseeable future is negligible - the obstacles to the change are too formidable. But that does not change the fact that the current system, at this time of history, is undemocratic, conflicting entirely with the principle of every citizen having equal vote, and that the arguments for it, such as prevention of a “tyranny of a majority” are preposterous and when expressed by even some respectable people amount to no less than a form of brainwashing.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

Regardless, the rules for this election were those established by the electoral college and were in place before the campaigning began. Neither candidate nor party filed a challenge to the rules with the FEC before the election took place. The respective campaigns were conducted in a manner that complied with these established rules, clinton hardly put any efforts into winning Texas as well as Trump never visited Kalifornia. 


Now the losers* would like to change the rules, after the game has been played.


*Losers in more ways than one.


stogiefogey
stogiefogey

Couple of nights ago, watching the proceedings on the streets of NYC on CNN, we could hear one of the marchers chanting "impeach Trump" as she passed by the reporter.

One had to wonder whether the poor idiot child understands that he needs to be sworn in before he can be impeached. Just a technicality I 'spose.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@stogiefogey Just like the many chants of Trump supporters before the election, demanding that Hillary be impeached if elected. Or the even more frequent chants to "lock her up," even though she has not been even charged, the less convicted, of any crime. Just a technicality. Poor idiot children.

Starik
Starik

@MarkVV @stogiefogey She might end up charged with something.  The Justice Department will be digging. All they need to do is nail a co-conspirator or two and turn them into state's witnesses.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could“sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”


http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-reason-for-the-electoral-college/

MarkVV
MarkVV

@RafeHollister True, and irrelevant to the discussion of the electoral college vs. the popular vote in the election of the President. 

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@MarkVV @RafeHollister 

"True, and irrelevant to the discussion of the electoral college vs. the popular vote"

I don't know if Mark, attempted to read Rafe's post but failed to comprehend its content, which is entirely possible or if he didn't bother to read it. Either way he once again made himself irrelevant to the discussion.

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit @MarkVV @RafeHollister I'd like to see abolition of the electoral college and the party primaries - and the two party system.  They gave a choice of bad and worse in this election.

Kamchak
Kamchak

Kyle luvs him some Trump now.

LOL!

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

With police being ambushed and murdered along with the far-left anarchists violently protesting this election, we're in deep trouble as a country.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

 The official number of illegal aliens in the state of California is nearly 3 million. We can estimate the number to be more than double this amount in reality.



In 2015, California Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA) signed a bill giving full voting rights to illegal aliens. This gives them the right to vote in all elections from a local level to national elections, including that of choosing who will become President.




The biggest problem with this is it is against Federal law for non-citizens to vote in any national election. This in itself negates the votes made by illegal aliens in California and any other state which allows them to vote.



http://eaglerising.com/31596/california-allows-non-citizens-to-vote-which-is-illegal-so-every-california-vote-should-be-disqualified/



Looks like Trump won the popular vote after all.


Deal with it.

lvg
lvg

Electoral College was set up to prevent the masses from electing a tyrant or totally unqualified individual.The  electors were supposed to do their own vetting of the candidates. Cons here say the electoral college is supposed to override a 400,000 plurality of the voters with no vetting of the candidates. Seems to me like that would be unconstitutional if they choose some who is totally unqualified contrary to the vote of the  masses..

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

" Which is what every other democratic republic in the world, other than the US, allows."

From Mark, the cry baby.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit From SGTGrit, the poor loser, after his ignorance was  exposed. 

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

In light of the pathetic far-left attempt to reverse this election, it won't surprise me if Kyle, a younger man than myself but much smarter will render a commentary this coming Monday,describing the validity of our electoral colledge system.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit You are right about one thing at last - that Kyle is much smarter than you. Of course, most everybody is.

AndyManUSA#45
AndyManUSA#45

CNN's Randi Kaye goes to a Cuban diner in Orlando to get the Latino reaction to a Trump victory. CNN found that Latinos in Florida have a problem with people illegally entering the country, one legal immigrant said, "I came through the front door." One person interviewed expressed excitement for a border wall while another and declared "the silent majority" has won.


The stunned CNN anchor said Florida Latinos "loved that he isn't politically correct."

"The bottom line is that they broke the law. When I came to this country, I came through the front door," Juan Torres, a Trump voter, told the CNNer.

"Do you think everyone should go through the front door as you say like you did?" the CNN correspondent asked.

"If you go to somebody's house, you go through the front door," he responded.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/11/cnn_investigates_why_latinos_in_florida_voted_for_trump_silent_majority_has_won.html



Picture the cnn babe's jaw resting on the floor.



Hecho

jhgm63
jhgm63

@IReportYouWhine Interesting that is was a Cuban restaurant. If a Cuban reaches the United States, they are automatically able to apply for residency in a year. In other words, they don't get deported.

stogiefogey
stogiefogey

@IReportYouWhine  The CNN libs, especially Jeff Zucker, must be sweating bullets at the thought that conservative leaning/Texas based AT&T might consummate its acquisition of Time Warner and clean house.

Guess some of them could find jobs over on MSNBC.