One way Donald Trump is also sabotaging Hillary Clinton

Clinton and Trump

Republicans aren’t the only ones who have fallen into the Trump trap.

Scan the headlines and the airwaves, the reportage and the punditry, on both the right and the left, and you find this election remains first, last and always about one thing: Donald Trump. Republicans had hoped to make the contest a referendum on Hillary Clinton as Barack Obama’s proverbial third term, but it turns out the one person less popular than Clinton is Trump. And he can’t help turning the conversation back to himself, even when it hurts him.

Democrats have figured that out, and are now busy beating down-ballot Republicans upside the head with The Donald’s every offensive utterance. Last week it was the Rev. Raphael Warnock, who had considered challenging U.S. Sen. Johnny Iskason, calling on Isakson to disavow Trump. This week it was Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed broadening the target to “all Republicans who love America.”

The effect has been obvious, and not just in those down-ballot races. Clinton was unable to pull away from Trump in the polls consistently until after the Democratic National Convention, which didn’t really gain traction until the theme turned away from selling liberalism and toward portraying Trump as unfit for the presidency. The emotional highlight was the anti-Trump speech by Khizr Khan, the Muslim American whose son, U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan, was killed in the Iraq war. And that moment was crystallized in public opinion when Trump stupidly attacked the Khans and even more bizarrely compared their son’s sacrifice to his “sacrifices” as an employer of thousands.

Trump hasn’t recovered yet.

But if Clinton has happened upon an unexpectedly easy path to the White House, here is what it’s costing her: the ability to claim any kind of mandate for any part of her policy agenda whatsoever.

Hillary being Hillary, she (and/or her team) have produced mounds of policy proposals. She has talked about many of them. But none of them pushed disaffected Republicans, independents or even Bernie Bros. toward her.

Bashing Trump did.

“Free” college tuition funded by higher taxes on “the rich,” for example, didn’t win her the trust of Democrats to her left or the approval of Republicans to her right. Democrats tried hard during their convention to wrap their further-and-further-left agenda in soothingly centrist, and sometimes even conservative, tones. Yet, the evidence from opinion polls conducted this month suggests voters are still holding their noses as they side with Clinton:

  • A Washington Post/ABC News poll found her backers were still virtually split as to whether they “mainly support Clinton” (50 percent) or “mainly oppose Trump” (46 percent).
  • A Economist/YouGov poll showed Clinton led Trump by 7 points even though her unfavorable rating hit a new high of 57 percent.
  • A Bloomberg poll had Clinton leading Trump by 6 points, even though more than two-thirds of respondents said the country is on the wrong track — and, by a 2-to-1 margin, they blamed Democrats for that more than Republicans.

These may be the early signs of a Clinton victory in November. But they most certainly are not indications of a mandate for her to do anything — other than not to be Donald Trump, not to speak like Donald Trump, not to act like Donald Trump.

And if there is any semblance of sense remaining in the GOP power structure — a mighty large “if” these days — they will use that to the advantage of those down-ballot Republicans.

For if voters are opting for Clinton in spite of their hesitance toward her, then what better hedge against those policies could there be than a Republican-led Congress? If this really is a matter of choosing Clinton as the lesser of two evils, then why let her pretend otherwise by giving her a Democratic Congress?

And if voters really wish a pox upon both parties, what better way to ensure that than by continuing to afflict each party with the other?

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lvg
lvg

So the head of the GOP probably lied big time about his finances on his mandatory financial disclosure forms but none of the sheep here think that is reason to demand he turn over his tax returns:



On the campaign trail, Donald J. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, has sold himself as a businessman who has made billions of dollars and is beholden to no one.

But an investigation by The New York Times into the financial maze of Mr. Trump’s real estate holdings in the United States reveals that companies he owns have at least $650 million in debt — twice the amount than can be gleaned from public filings he has made as part of his bid for the White House. The Times’s inquiry also found that Mr. Trump’s fortunes depend deeply on a wide array of financial backers, including one he has cited in attacks during his campaign.


As president, Mr. Trump would have substantial sway over monetary and tax policy, as well as the power to make appointments that would directly affect his own financial empire. He would also wield influence over legislative issues that could have a significant impact on his net worth, and would have official dealings with countries in which he has business interests.""

NY Times today(liberal rag that just chased the Russian agent off of Trump's campaign)


So according Kyle and the cons here, Hillary is the  corrupt candidate after paying nearly 5 million in federal, state and property taxes. How much did your boy Donald pay???

redneckbluedog
redneckbluedog

Unless Mr. Trump is so bad that he causes massive losses down ticket...

Then a mandate is not so important.

StanH
StanH

It amazes me that the so called Liberals would put there kids and grandkids lives in the hands such as Hillary Clinton....Do you not know what thats going to do to there future...yea just keep on killing millions of babies and the big ole great USA will just keep prospering....yea thats real brillant!

redneckbluedog
redneckbluedog

@StanH Well, her husband did a pretty good job.  No reason to think she won't either.  So maybe a little less drama..!?!?

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@redneckbluedog @StanH

Failed on health care.  Rode the internet bubble and got out just ahead of it bursting.  Did nothing against Islamofascist terrorism for eight years and got out just ahead of 9/11.  Declined to take Osama bin Laden when offered.

He was a coward and do-nothing.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@redneckbluedog @StanH So we should be a banana Republic and bring in all the presidents's spouses for a turn after term limits have driven them out?

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

I see where the march of the blinded left wing lemmings continued through much of the evening.

MarkVV
MarkVV

This issue of “ransom for hostages” shows the complete bankruptcy and dishonesty of the anti-Obama crowd. When the families of hostages attacked the White House for not allowing them to pay ransom, and the White House argued that it would encourage more hostage taking, the Obama enemies joined in the attacks, denouncing the White House decision as inhuman.

Now the Administration pays the debt to Iran,the money the US owed Iran – money that cannot be called ransom – but has used the circumstance of one of the payments to encourage the release of the hostages. If the US did not pay the debt at this time, the money would have been paid some other time, without getting anything extra for that. But now that shameless crowd of hypocrites yells “ransom,” “encouraging more hostage-taking.” These people are absolutely immoral and contemptible.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Bend over and assume the position--Dear Leader has a bunch more scummy payoffs to global dirtbags on the way in the next few months. Releasing extremely dangerous Islamofascists from prison, cash drops of the remaining hundreds of millions he's so anxious to give Iran, commuting sentences for America-hating racist Democrats...

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV Most rational folks realized from the getgo it was a ransom situation, but instead of telling the truth, Obama tried several attempts at spin and excuses.  First they framed it as a "coincidence", later they provided more false information, about how they couldn't do a bank transaction and needed cash.  How did they repay the other 1.5 Billion dollars, they refuse to say, because that would make a lie of the cash excuse.  Now the spin continues with another story trying to excuse the ransom payment.  


There is video of all this, but his sycophants continue to prop up a regime that always seem to resort to distortions and lies first, the truth when they are forced to come clean.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Lil_Barry_Bailout I really would like to know how much countries like the UAE get for taking 15 committed terrorists.  You know they don't do it because they love America or Obama, and just want to help him out. 


If we had a functioning free press in America you would think someone would ask Obama, but they are too interested in some story about swimmers being fleeced in Rio.  That is if they could get access to him on the golf course of course.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@RafeHollister @MarkVV Your comment proves that your are one of the shameful, contemptible people, who find it more important to make a political attack than to acknowledge the facts. Instead of celebrating the success of the government in the release of hostages without paying Iran anything that does not belong to them, you make shameful accusations without substance.

As for what "most rational folks realized," that is another stupid claim you cannot substantiate. Have you asked them? And your ignorance is shown by your claim that "they "refuse to say" how they "did repay the other 1.5 Billion dollars." The money paid this time was the first installment of the payment of the debt. 

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@MarkVV @RafeHollister 

Guess you willfully disregarded Obama's attempt to spin and dodge until it could no longer be denied that Iran demanded payment for the hostage release.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@StanH @Lil_Barry_Bailout

Yes, there are conditions in America that suck, but the left believes that America, as founded based on maximizing individual freedom, inherently sucks.  When we're strongest, that's when the left REALLY thinks we suck.  The left (and our other enemies abroad) like America best when we're weakest.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Another Obama administration lie surfaces. The administration steadfastly maintained that there wasn't any ransom paid to Iran for the American hostages they illegally held. Now we learn that they're now admitting that there indeed was a paid ransom for their release.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@SGTGrit

Clarification:  Obama himself denied that the $400 million was in any way a ransom.  It wasn't a spokesman, it wasn't something he learned about from the news.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@SGTGrit Gruber admitted they lied and laughed at how successful their lies were accepted in their Obamacare con.  They lied, as admitted by Ben Rhodes, throughout the Iranian capitulation deal in order to sell it to the skeptical congress.  Now they lied about paying money for hostages, which endangers all Americans, including the military, who travel abroad.


Yet we have some establishment GOP types who try and convince us the TPP, negotiated by Obama, is a really good deal.  How many times will they let him con them, only to later learn he was lying all the time.  Fool me once, twice, three times, but this time we believe you, right guys.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit A lie. The administration has not admitted that they have paid ransom. Paying a debt cannot be paying ransom.

lvg
lvg

@MarkVV @SGTGrit Mark VV - why argue with these fools? Obama is at 52% approval rating  which is equal to Reagan and Eisenhower. These guys are at zero. Next you know they will try the Hillary has dysphasia lie out of  sheer desperation

MarkVV
MarkVV

@lvg @MarkVV @SGTGrit So far I have drawn the line at comments from Lil_Barry_Bailout. It would be useless to respond to comments that show a complete absence of brain activity.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV @SGTGrit They call it leverage.  Terminology with little distinction.  A rose by any other name smells just as sweet.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Democrats hope to enshrine their fear of speech by overturning Citizens United and putting politicians in charge of regulating speech.

They are also attacking free exercise of religion.

"Liberal fascism" is no exaggeration.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@xxxzzz They brand any speech that goes against political correctness as hate speech, trying to intimidate their opposition into silence, since they have trouble winning rational arguments.

Re Al A T
Re Al A T

donald has had plenty of man dates. Just look at those lips and that gaping hole of a mouth he has! What man wouldn't love him

StanH
StanH

@Re Al A T Only a queer are a french maid would say something like that and your name doesnt suggest your a french maid'


UpToHerewithDC
UpToHerewithDC

Just put my TRUMP sticker on my car.  Several folks today (in stopped traffic) gave me a thumbs up. And before all you armchair comedians jump on the keyboard, it wasn't the middle finger.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@UpToHerewithDC No jokes, a serious question. What do you think is the importance of your observation to make it worth announcing it here? Has anybody ever denied that there were people supporting Donald Trump?

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@UpToHerewithDC Hillary supporters are not known to be tolerant, they beat up a guy in Tennessee yesterday for wearing a Trump button to a yard sale and one old man was beaten with a crowbar for wearing a Trump shirt, so you have my admiration for putting yourself in harms way.  I think most supporters of Trump do not have your courage.


Keep us informed of your experiences and how much damage your car suffers.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Love those "tolerant" Democrats!

What is it about being a Dem that makes a person so hateful and violent? Is it the lack of intelligence or education? Is it the envy of those who are more successful? It isn't uncommon for those on the receiving end of handouts to come to resent those who are paying their way for them.

Liz in Sarasota
Liz in Sarasota

Gosh, if you aren't crazy about either candidate, just vote his or her party's platform. The Republican worldview is so 180 degrees different from the Democratic perspective that the choice is a no-brainer.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@Liz in Sarasota

On that we all probably agree!

Diminished freedom, higher taxes, slower economic growth, more inequality

--VS--

Protecting our liberties and restraining government busybodies

MarkVV
MarkVV

One argument of the conservatives against Hillary Clinton is that her presidency would be “Obama’s third term.” I hope she wins and that they are right. And 52 percent of those polled about Obama’s job approval agree.

It is in the interest of the Republicans falsely to paint Obama tenure as a failure. On the domestic front, whatever he has not achieved was mostly because of the actions of the reactionary Republican Congress, so openly intent on making his presidency a failure. That has been more important for them than the interests of the people of this country.

On the foreign front, many of his critics are the fools who believe that the American president can solve every conflict in the world. Therefore, if there is something wrong happening anywhere, it is Obama’s fault! Then there are the armchair experts, who know everything what Obama did wrong – after they know the outcome of his actions. Such as the growth of ISIS after the withdrawal of the US troops, negotiated and agreed to for that date by GWB. “If Obama tried harder, forced Iraq to keep some troops there (unprotected by the Iraq law), everything would be ok.” How do they know that? Nobody can tell what would have happened in foreign affairs because something did not happen.

The Republicans’ case against Hillary is one of huge exaggeration of some real flaws, with the pretense that other candidates, in the past and present, have been or would be flawless. 

JustDaFactsMam
JustDaFactsMam

@MarkVV


"On the domestic front, whatever he has not achieved was mostly because of the actions of the reactionary Republican Congress, "


So he can't work unless he has complete control?  Thanks for proving he is not a leader.


"On the foreign front, many of his critics are the fools who believe that the American president can solve every conflict in the world"


Only fools cannot see how his policies in Iraq, Libya and Syria created ISIS.   Only fools can't see the damage done to the middle class and Black families by his immigration policies.  


MarkVV
MarkVV

@JustDaFactsMam @MarkVV “So he can't work unless he has complete control?Thanks for proving he is not a leader.”

A stupid comment from someone who does not understand our system of government. In matters that require congressional action, no president can achieve what he wants if the opposition controls the Congress and is unwilling to compromise. Yes, we have known persons in history who were leaders. In Germany, one of them was actually called the leader, Führer.

“Only fools cannot see how his policies in Iraq, Libya and Syria created ISIS.   Only fools can't see the damage done to the middle class and Black families by his immigration policies.“

And then there are fools who write such opinions as if they were facts.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@JustDaFactsMam @MarkVV And of course he had 60 votes in the Senate and a huge House majority when he was elected in 2008.  And still couldn't get much done.  Suddenly in his last year he is doing or trying to do things that he could have done 8 years ago.  Its all politics, not policy.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

We can thank Our President Bush for cleaning up the Democrat housing mess after Fan and Fred "rolled the dice" far too often. The recession ended June 2009 and TARP was repaid shortly thereafter.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Lil_Barry_Bailout And its been the slowest recovery ever.  Part of the reason it got so deep was Obama telling everybody constantly that things would get worse.  Bill Clinton finally had to tell him to quit being such a whiner.  ACA appears to be on its way to being a financial disaster.  Pretty sad when those are his two biggest accomplishments.