Meanwhile, on planet Not Trump …

"Wait, you mean matters pertaining to the agency I run are 'work-related'?"

“Wait, are you telling me matters pertaining to the agency I run are ‘work-related’?!?”

In an alternate universe on Bizarro World — or maybe that’s the normal planet, and we’re living on the backward, block-shaped world these days — there’s a Republican presidential candidate who doesn’t generate headlines about whether he did or didn’t suggest assassinating Hillary Clinton if she wins the presidency, and it’s Clinton’s campaign that is slowly circling the drain due to stories like these (via the New York Times):

“A new batch of State Department emails released Tuesday showed the close and sometimes overlapping interests between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department when Hillary Clinton served as secretary of state.

“The documents raised new questions about whether the charitable foundation worked to reward its donors with access and influence at the State Department, a charge that Mrs. Clinton has faced in the past and has always denied.

“In one email exchange, for instance, an executive at the Clinton Foundation in 2009 sought to put a billionaire donor in touch with the United States ambassador to Lebanon because of the donor’s interests there.

“In another email, the foundation appeared to push aides to Mrs. Clinton to help find a job for a foundation associate. Her aides indicated that the department was working on the request.”

These are some of the emails Clinton did not turn over to the State Department because she and her attorneys didn’t consider them “work-related.” Arranging meetings with ambassadors and pushing people to be hired aren’t work-related? I guess that depends upon what the meaning of the word “work” is.

This is the same kind of pay-to-play influence peddling that has dogged the Clintons for years, and it has emerged occasionally at various points during this very campaign.

In this alternate universe, voters would also be turning away from Hillary due to her absolute inability to tell the truth when, as recently last week, she was still unable to manage a clear, consistent and honest explanation for the FBI’s investigation into her use of a private email server while at State. They wouldn’t have to decide whether they’d rather have a practiced liar or an unrehearsed one.

Maybe instead of Mars, NASA should be aiming to get us to that planet, wherever it is.

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lvg
lvg

Back on planet Russia: 


Russian TV broadcasting Trump's comments that Obama founded ISIS. This is the BS line Putin has been saying for years.Trump's comments come straight from Putin's mouth. Keep it up cons- Turkey already moving into Vladmir's camp as well as Israel. 



Trump's Russian agents winning over dumb cons and  doing a great job for Vladmir's propoganda machine.No coincidence  things suddenly heating up on Russian border with Ukraine. I guess that is Obama's fault too.


DawgDadII
DawgDadII

A politically novice businessman who occasionally sticks his foot in his mouth is FAR preferable to a Democrat who kicks us in our teeth while emptying our bank accounts of everything WE have worked hard to save.

lvg
lvg

Meanwhile on Planet GOP- rats jumping overboard every day; emergency meeting tomorrow with Rancid Peanuts to figure out how to rescue the GOP party.Even Hugh Hewitt says Trump is looney toons. Of course  Kyle, Isakson, Perdue , Lil Barry and cons here think Hillary is losing.

Barack Hussein Obama is enjoying every moment of Trump and GOP meltdown.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Well finally something in the news we can't blame the Grifter Queen for.  So, who cooked the intelligent reports on ISIS, and more importantly who was responsible for them being cooked.


I'm sure the poor military folks will be the scapegoats. Obama (don't blame me Obama) will say he didn't know about their efforts until......................he saw it on TV or read it in the newspaper.  

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

The Libs are terrified as to what may be coming next in another Hillary, email dump as well they should be. The Obama/Lynch DOJ might then be forced to investigate under considerable scrutiny by an awakened and very concerned public. HRC, might not make it to election day free of criminal indictment. 

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit Not as terrified as the Republicans as to what stupidity might come out of Trump's mouth next.

lvg
lvg

@SGTGrit Four investigations of the Clintons by GOP hit man Comey since 1996 and he strikes out each time  even after fabricating evidence of   "classification markings' in his unethical and unprofessional presser last month. How is that fifth one of a perjury charge working Mr. Comey?


Comey's name will appear in new dictionary definition of witchhunt

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

About 3 in 4 Republicans cant even bring themselves to acknowledge Obama was born here.


Most think he is a Muslim to this day


And now they nominate a birther who think Ted Cruz's Dad had something to do with the Kennedy Assassination. 


How can one have a serious discussion with a group so divorced from reality ?

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@Hedley_Lammar

You support someone who lies about her lying.  Your party knew she is a liar and long-time magnet for corruption.  And she's the best you can do?

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Hedley_Lammar Divorced from reality, you want to go there.  


"We left the White House broke, dead broke."  Now they are worth 100M dollars and always operated above board and never traded in influence peddling or personal enrichment.  How clueless do you have to be Headley?  


The Grifting, the lying, the dishonesty, the extreme carelessness, putting personal privacy over national security, air of entitlement, cover-ups, enabling of a sexual predator,  causing legal and financial problems for her associates, and being inept, yet, the Dems think the Grifter Queen would make a good President. Talking about divorced from reality.


LOCK HER UP!  

lvg
lvg

@RafeHollister @Hedley_Lammar Hilarious- you worship a guy who admitted in a deposition that he flat out lied over 30 times and Hillary is the liar.

lvg
lvg

@Lil_Barry_Bailout @Hedley_Lammar No but Comey did and admitted that he misspoke about those classified e-mails when cross examined in the hearing the  stupid Cons held the next day. How's that perjury charge coming? Is this strike no. 5 for Comey in trying to nail Hillary with a GOP WITCHUNT???/

FredJohnsson
FredJohnsson

@Lil_Barry_Bailout @Hedley_Lammar Hillary probably did lie, and if you guys had been smart enough to nominate someone who was not a lunatic, you'd be home free.  But, you did nominate a lunatic.  And now Hillary will win because more people will accept the Devil they know than a lunatic that could say or do anything.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

 Remember her rendition of "I ain't noways tard"!

Why do you hate gospel music?

MarkVV
MarkVV

This latest salvo of accusations is perhaps minor compared with the barrage of irrationality from all sources in the other “scandals:”

Mrs. Clinton told some relatives of the victims in Benghazi “the most repugnant lie that the attack was because of the video.” One might have sympathy and understand that grieving people may lose a sense of rationality, but the same accusation has been repeated by other critics of Mrs Clinton in all seriousness: She is a pathological liar!

Has it ever occurred to them that Mrs. Clinton might have believed what she said to be true at the time because there were so many news stories about demonstrations incited by the video, the intelligence sources were not clear in their opinion, and to this day the role played by the video is not clear? But perhaps most importantly, what do those relatives find so “repugnant?” Is the death of their family member any different, more or less painful, depending on the motivation of the attackers?

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV Well she did tell Chelsea and the Libyan minister on the day of the attack that it was terrorism, she never mentioned a video to them.  She is on record as saying she knew it was terrorism at the time.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@MarkVV @RafeHollister

And don’t even get me started on the phony poutragy narrative that the initial presumptions about the Middle East being destabilized horrifically due to a nasty, inflammatory American “documentary” about Islam, would’ve somehow looked a whole lot better for Team Obama (and the State Dept.) had that been the main driver of that deadly attack.

I’ve never, not once, heard a credible argument from the right on that one.

And y’know, if I were hearing these buffoons constantly second-guessing every freaking hiccup I’d had and trying to cast me as someone who didn’t care about a colleague’s death, why, I might just get flustered myself and tell one of the buffoons “what difference does it make”, as well. In fact, the more I think about the context of that particular remark, the more sense it makes to me.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@MarkVV @RafeHollister Exactly


The situation was very fluid. And protests were erupting that day all over the ME because of the video. It was natural to think Benghazi was a similar situation.


Don't try and convince them though. This is a little over thier heads. 


They have their Climate Change isnt real Evolution isnt real and Obama was born in Kenya Fox News talking points down. Nothing will change that from being the "truth"

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV @RafeHollister Motive, well maybe she learned, once she got back to the office, that Obama was going to concoct a cover story since the election was six weeks away.  Gotta be a team player and whatever, so ditch the truth and get on the Obama team.


After all he said GM was alive and Al Queda was on the run, and we know Barry doesn't like to be shown up, as the blusterer he is.  Remember he said Climate Change was our biggest enemy.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@RafeHollister @MarkVV Which long term it is.


You are more likely to be hit by a meteor than killed by AQ or ISIS.


I for the life of me have no idea why you cowards allow yourselves to be terrorized by terrorists.


Maybe being a coward is a Republican thing ?

MarkVV
MarkVV

@RafeHollister @MarkVV The usual tactic of someone who wrote something he/she cannot defend  - to change the subject. But multiplied by claiming something that is so insane it does not deserve to be called a reason.

So according to Rafe Hollister, Hillary, while knowing that the attack was purely a terrorist action, would lie to a few people, relatives of the victim, to achieve "something," (even the author cannot spell out what) while she also knows that the different truth will soon be revealed, That is so pathetic, that a child would be ashamed of it.

gapeach101
gapeach101

@MarkVV Here is what I have never understood.  Since when does a government tell all it knows, when it knows it?  Since when are "the people" entitled to immediate access?

I know no one here is old enough to remember the "six day war" that Israel fought.   For six days the press reported that Israel was losing--every battle--every one-every day.  At the end, Israel had won the war.  Should Israel have been hung out to dry because they didn't share their triumphs?  


RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV @RafeHollister No a child couldn't figure it out, or anyone else divorced from reality like a Hilbot. 


How could she buck the party line her boss established and not resign.  Who selected Susan Rice to go on those Sunday talk shows and lie, it was Obama.  Why not Hillary, because she knew that the talking points she was to recite were total bunk, and she probably said find someone else, even tho, this was her responsibility, being Chris Stevens boss and the person in charge of the State Dept facility in Benghazi.  Why Susan Rice, she had no direct association.  Talking about divorced from reality, that would be the people who continually support the Obama cover-up and deny there was a cover-up initiated to spin the Benghazi tragedy.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@RafeHollister @MarkVV One more time - to this day it is not certain how much the video played a role. She might very well changed her opinion many times as the events were unfolding. And perhaps most importantly - what would have been her motive to tell the relatives something she knew was false?

MarkVV
MarkVV

@RafeHollister @MarkVV In other words, you do not see a way out of your inability to present a rational answer to a simple question, so you indulge in a hodgepodge of unrelated issues. Typical, and still a failure.

MarkVV
MarkVV

"The first casualty of War is Truth"   said Hiram Warren Johnson and many people since. And many people would say the same about politics. But I would say that the first casualty of politics, and especially of the presidential election campaigns, is rationality and the sense of proportion.

It starts with the way we look at people in the government. The government, which according to conservatives is the root of all evil, so full of deceit and immorality compared with the holiness of business, of the private sector. The same business where for so many backroom deals, corruption and deceiving the purchasing public are the everyday occurrence. And then some people clamor for these “pure” business people to replace those corrupt people we have elected to serve in the government.

Presidential campaign brings out the worst of this tendency, with unabashed exaggeration ruling the day. If you read Kyle’s article, you can see how the flimsiest accusations are used to imply grave misdeeds:

 “The documents raised new questions…”

“..an executive at the Clinton Foundation in 2009 sought to put a billionaire donor in touch with the United States ambassador …

“…the foundation appeared to push aids to Mrs. Clinton…”

Lock her up!

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

 Plus, she only claims to be Arkansan, when she is using that smarmy Southern accent and it helps her politically.


I always enjoyed Bush's Texas drawl. When he and the other Bushes are all blue bloods from Connecticut.


Hilarious


xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Hedley_Lammar W. only lived a short time in CT before moving to Midland, Texas.  Jeb mostly grew up in Houston.  W. sounds like Midland and Jeb sounds like Houston.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Question for Kyle!  


This article reports that Gov Deal is helping to furnish illegal immigrants in Georgia with Drivers Licenses, some even after the DHS has entered intentions to deport.  We know Breitbart has a bias (as do all the media outlets) and DA King is an advocate for enforcing immigration laws.  So what is the response from the left side of journalism.  Has this been covered by the AJC and based on your knowledge and experience, is it true?


http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/08/10/illegals-georgia-gop-governor-drivers-licenses/ 

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Hedley_Lammar @RafeHollister They have their biases as I pointed out.  Find me a source that doesn't have a bias.  Don't mention the Clinton News Network please.


All the media look through their stories and pick and choose those that fit their agenda.  Those stories are the ones they run with.  Have any of the liberal sites run with the story of the Arkansas rapist Hillary defended, where she smeared the 12 year victim and accused her of being attracted to adult men?


If you don't read both sides you wind up being a willfully uniformed Democrat.

lvg
lvg

Yesterday we got the rallying cry for gunhuggers to take matters in their own hands if Hillary is elected  which is a dog whistle for using arms to overcome tyranny;


Today we got Trump claiming Obama and Hillary are founders of ISIS who is a public enemy no.1;


and we got a top Trump aid tweeting to kill Hillary as well as people at  Trump rallies yet Kyle and top GOP leaders are concerned about some  e-mails showing favoritism for contributors.

Just like garbage spilled out here by Lil Barry and others.



So this is what the Stupid Party has become- how sad.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Man you have to ask yourself after reading some of these pro-Hillary Clinton posts, what God forsaken planet do these people come from who would advocate supporting such a serial liar. President of the United States, good Lord, no.

Salvador Dali
Salvador Dali

Keep fighting the good fight.  Hillary will keep making terrible mistakes.  But they will always pale in comparison to what Trump says the next day.  Sec Clinton wins in November and Democrats regain the Senate too.  Many thanks to the primary voters who gave us the gift that is Trump.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Here is what I had penned earlier this morning on another blog.  We are going to have to fight for this, below.  The devil (metaphorically) has hit the soul of Donald Trump and he will not go gently.  Fight for the below vision, and know what is going on in depth, before it is too late.  Energy is a factor, as is health:


"I'm going to take a chance and tell you my version of how this story will 'begin.' We are now into the second decade of the 21st century, and when Hillary Clinton completes her first term a President, we will be into the 3rd decade of this century and this millennium. Donald Trump will be a thing of the past, if not in body, then in consciousness. Hillary will have put this nation and this world onto a period of steadiness, in which we can build something positive. And, what might that be? Read the Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance Speech of Barack Obama for that long-ranged vision, and recall the writings of Martin Luther King, Jr., for that long-ranged vision. The world must wake up to the fact that consciousness must and has already changed toward seeing that we are only ants in the ant bed of this planet, and unless we work together to keep our common home stable for all of us, some of us will cause all of us to perish. Yes, God works in mysterious ways to change and elevate the consciousness of humankind toward his eternal and loving soul." 

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@MaryElizabethSings So are you calling for the assassination of Donald Trump?  He certainly seems in better physical health than Hillary.  And Hillary implied that Obama may get assassinated 8 years ago by saying she was still running, because, after all, RFK got assassinated while leading in June.

Salvador Dali
Salvador Dali

@xxxzzz @MaryElizabethSings trumpy is a 70 year old, morbidly obese man. His culinary tastes ( by his own admission)  lean toward fast food, fatty, greasy burgers, fatty, greasy chicken, french fries and pizzas,  All ingested with golden silverware, of course. I thought that the GOP was the party of personal responsibility. This is your party leader?  Goodness

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MaryElizabethSings Since you are the expert on the Devil and his ways, what does Ole Scratch say about someone who would put their own personal privacy above the national interest of their country?

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@Salvador Dali @MaryElizabethSings @xxxzzz


I thought that might have been the case, but I decided to give the reading audience of this blog, more than that particular poster, total clarity regarding my words. 


Thank you for your words of insight, shared with me.

lvg
lvg

@xxxzzz @MaryElizabethSings Not even close to what Trump implied with 2nd amendment folks  responding if she selected (and somehow also appointed) anti gun judges.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@MaryElizabethSings @Salvador Dali @xxxzzz You seem to buy Hillary's spiel hook line and sinker.  The MSM has been accusing Trump of encouraging Hillary's assassination when you and Hillary have used similar insinuations.

Salvador Dali
Salvador Dali

@MaryElizabethSings @xxxzzz Mary- me thinks you were baited and/or mocked. Doesn't dignify a reply.  Well honed hate radio/fox/gingrich technique going back decades.  HRC's election is very frightening for a large portion but still well below a majority of the population. We'll have to work through that with them.