DNC 2016: Here’s the sad truth: There is no other Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton's efforts at playfulness are about as convincing as her outreach toward Trump skeptics on the right. (AP Photo / J. Scott Applewhite)

Hillary Clinton’s efforts at playfulness are about as convincing as her outreach toward Trump skeptics on the right. (AP Photo / J. Scott Applewhite)

As I watched Hillary Clinton’s speech Thursday night, one question wormed its way through her still-awkward-after-all-these-years delivery: She is obviously trying to appeal to both the #NeverTrump and #NeverHillary camps at the same time, but will many people in either group find her credible?

I can’t speak for the liberal wing of the #NeverHillary side, but my reaction was best summarized by someone else:

Democrats’ stylistic appeals to the center, and even conservatives, were a little too obvious Thursday night. The entire night — particularly the patriotic rebukes of Donald Trump by Pakistani-American man whose son, a U.S. Army captain, was killed in Iraq in 2004, and by retired Marine Gen. John Allen — seemed designed to claim territory the Republican Party has abandoned by falling in line behind Trump’s cult of personality. And it might have worked, if the Democrats’ candidate hadn’t spent decades working for an increasingly left-wing agenda.

You can’t tell Bernie Sanders’ supporters “your cause is our cause,” as Hillary did Thursday, and then turn around and expect folks on the center-right to feel comfortable siding with you. Even her most explicit pitch to non-Democrats was laced with progressivist phrasing:

“Whatever party you belong to, or if you belong to no party at all, if you share these beliefs, this is your campaign.

“If you believe that companies should share profits with their workers, not pad executive bonuses, join us.

“If you believe the minimum wage should be a living wage, and no one working full time should have to raise their children in poverty, join us.

“If you believe that every man, woman, and child in America has the right to affordable health care, join us.

“If you believe that we should say ‘no’ to unfair trade deals, that we should stand up to China, that we should support our steelworkers and autoworkers and homegrown manufacturers, join us.

“If you believe we should expand Social Security and protect a woman’s right to make her own health care decisions, join us.

“And yes, if you believe that your working mother, wife, sister, or daughter deserves equal pay, join us.”

It’s not that conservatives believe health care should be unaffordable, that women deserve to be paid less, and so on. It’s that we know what kinds of policies she means when she says these things, and they’re not the policies we believe will solve the problem(s). While Hillary attacked Trump for saying (at one point in his speech last week) that he alone can fix our problems, her lifelong counter-argument that only the federal government can fix them isn’t any more appealing.

One of her key lines about her GOP opponent (“Here’s the sad truth: There is no other Donald Trump; this is it”) applies equally to her.

Perhaps, if need be, she would be more inclined to compromise with a Republican-controlled Congress a la her husband than her predecessor has been. Or maybe not, given that one big thing that has changed since Bill Clinton’s presidency is the pressure on elected Democrats from the left wing of their base.

But one thing is clear: She isn’t going to govern from the center, or even slightly left of center, on her own. That’s not her and, despite a lot of myth-making about her moderation, it never has been.

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Hulak
Hulak


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lvg
lvg

GOP Benghazi myth debunked:



MARTHA RADDATZ (HOST): In his fiercely worded op-ed in The New York Times, former CIA Acting Director Michael Morell blasted Trump as unprepared and dangerous and endorsed Hillary Clinton. Michael Morell joins us now. Mr. Morell, I want to first get your reaction to what Rudolph Giuliani said.

MICHAEL MORELL: One thing that struck me right off the bat was what he said about Benghazi. There is this view out there that she lied about what caused the attack. That she said it was the video. I think one of the really interesting things that is in early 2014, the Federal Bureau of Investigation walked into the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and they said that we believe the video was a motivation in this attack. Abu Khattala, who is the only person arrested, said that the video was a motivation. So this idea that the video played no role, which Republicans keep repeating over and over and over again, just isn't true.

RADDATZ: But those parents have said she said those things to them. That has resonated among the voters. 

MORRELL: She said it was terrorism, right? To Chelsea [Clinton]. She said to them it was the video. Those two things can both be true at the same time. And it turns out, right, it turns out that the video did play a role in that attack and Republicans don't want people to believe that.


On ABC today.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Ummm, the AJC is the only poll that shows Clinton ahead of Trump in Georgia. Of course this is the AJC and very pro-Hillary.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

In Georgia, vote for Barksdale instead of Isakson for U.S. Senator.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

TAKE NOTICE:


AJC Presidential Poll for GEORGIA, released today, August 5, 2016:


Hillary Clinton, 44%


Donald Trump, 40%

lvg
lvg

Dems urging Cruz and other Cons to hold hearings on Russian hack of DNC and Trump encouragement.  Great idea!

MarkVV
MarkVV

The pronouncement of the Trump campaign people usually are, like his, infuriating, but there are bright spots. Like yesterday when on CNN the Trump national campaign spokeswoman, Katrina Pierson accused President Obama of the responsibility for the death of Capt. Humayun Khan by “changing the rules of engagement.”

lvg
lvg

@MarkVV soon we will hear how Hillary and Obama responsible for attack on 9-11 and did nothing to rescue survivors.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

Kyle, you and I see Hillary Clinton in such differing ways.  Perhaps, that is because I am within 5 years of being her age (I'm older).


Here is my impression of Hillary:  I believe that Hillary Clinton was made for this job at this time in America’s history.  She has proven to have nerves of steel and a core of steel, ready intelligence of a penetrating and detailed kind, as well as compassion for humans as a whole and as individuals, with a vision for our nation and world that is inclusive not exclusive.


Here is what I had written about the importance of her candidacy in Georgia, on another blog:


"Georgia’s latest polls have Clinton at 46% and Trump at 46%.  It is possible for Georgia to turn Blue in this election and, thereby, affect the trajectory of this nation and of this world, positively, for future generations.

Make your support for Hillary Clinton be impacting and make your vote count.  Women, blacks, Latinos, all minorities, young adults must turn out in large numbers in Georgia to turn this state Blue.  I believe most Georgians are more progressive than they have allowed themselves to demonstrate because of peer pressure and financial concerns.  Now is the time to stand up and to let your voice be heard and your vote be counted.  You will like yourself much better if you do this for this nation, its people, and for the world’s future."


P. S.  Enjoy your well-earned vacation, Kyle!


SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@MaryElizabethSings 

Good luck with convincing Kyle, that he should support Hillary Clinton. Most people see her as an untrustworthy serial liar. Strangely, most Democrats support her anyway. Trump, is flawed but at least he puts America first, so I'll take the chance on Trump, over Clinton, who has a long record of deceit in public office. BTW...RCP has Trump up by 4 in Georgia but polls won't reveal much until after the first debate.

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit @MaryElizabethSings Hillary was not a good Secretary of State.  She and her husband have enriched themselves making speeches (and promises) to other wealthy interests and skating, as usual on the edge of criminal activity.  There's one reason to vote for her: she isn't Trump.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@Bruno2 

Good job, Bruno. But Bookmans FNM has fallen to only a few hard core Libs. Maybe you can get something going over here. I'll try to help but I'm an old guy from the Vietnam war era.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Depends on what the definition of is, is.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit People who do not care about the meaning of the words they or others use, do not care about the truth.

lvg
lvg

@MarkVV @SGTGrit How about we make a  list of all the Trump lies and see how they compare to these alleged lies of  Hillary.

MarkVV
MarkVV

Correction: It should have been "so the claim is now ...

MarkVV
MarkVV

The most common accusation against Hillary Clinton is that she is “a liar.” But the accusation falls apart when one examines any of those presumed “lies” and the true meaning of the word. Naturally, there will be people calling such an examination “pedantry,” because they are those who do not care about the truth.

In one of the most commonly cited cases, the infamous e-mails, Director Comey already cleared Mrs. Clinton of lying to the FBI, so the claim is not that she “lied to the public.” But did she? All that they can say is that Director Comey again said that what she said was not exactly the truth. But is saying something that is not true lying? Not necessarily. If it were, we all would be liars.

lvg
lvg

Regardless of the BS below - Hillary did not lie about the e-mails being classified on her server:


"""""At his July 5 press conference, FBI Director James Comey said a “very small number” of emails sent and received by Hillary Clinton over her private server “bore markings indicating the presence of classified information” — contradicting Clinton’s claims that she “never received nor sent any material that was marked classified.”

But now we are learning more about those emails from Comey, who testified before the House Oversight Committee on July 7, and State Department spokesman John Kirby, who addressed these emails at press briefings on July 6 and 7:

  • Comey said three emails had “portion markings” on them indicating that they were classified, but they were not properly marked and therefore could have been missed by Clinton. He said the emails were marked as classified with the letter “C” in the body of the email.
  • Kirby said the State Department believes that at least two of the emails were mistakenly marked as confidential. He could not speak to the third email, saying the department didn’t have​ “all of the records and documents that the FBI used in their investigation.”
  • Comey told the committee he is “highly confident” that FBI investigators consulted with the State Department about the marked emails. But he said he did not know that the department believes that any of them were marked in error.

  • http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/revisiting-clinton-and-classified-information/
  • Cons lie- Hillary did not

lvg
lvg

@SGTGrit @lvg Since you know better than Kirby-and Hillary;  tell us exactly what markings made the e-mails classifed and what those markings meant.Was there a mistake in a whopping total of three e-mails? Could Hillary disregard the red  letter C in an e-mail and under what circumstances???. You are the  expert - tell us.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@lvg @SGTGrit 

 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/

See what happens when you rely on your far-left internet sites to tell you what say. The above link should help you understand the real world fact that Hillary did indeed lie to the American public. Comey, couldn't hide the truth about her lies to the public only that she didn't lie during her interview with the FBI. He let her off the hook from indictment, which doesn't even come close to passing the smell test. Now if you wish to continue to be willfully ignorant, it's on you.

lvg
lvg

@SGTGrit @lvg Comey, a Republican tried four times to nail the Clintons in four different GOP witch hunts and each time drew blanks. So he tried a presser to lynch Hillary and make the  Cons happy but  it all fell apart when cross examined by Dems in hearing.

Just like  the never ending Benghazi lynchings.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@lvg 

Give it up. Trying to take the Democrat talking points that have been debunked by reliable fact check sources is like defecating in one hand, while wishing in the other because when you wipe your hands together you'll have doo doo all over both hands. The WaPo, not exactly a conservative leaning media organizations gave Hillary's version of Comey's remarks four Pinocchios.

lvg
lvg

@SGTGrit @lvg Notice how cons know nothing about the

testimony and the

facts. Instead they always make up sh-t and say the

other side is using "left wing talking points" ans blame the drive by or left wing media and liberals. It is a disease that will bite the   GOP in the rear this November just like 2008 and 2012

Starik
Starik

@lvg @SGTGrit What has Hillary done as Secretary of State and Senator in a positive way? 

Bruno2
Bruno2

For those agonizing over Trump's combative nature and unwillingness to take crap from anyone, isn't that the kind of guy you want on your team??  Just imagine when he stops fighting Hillary and starts fighting the rest of the world??

"Godfather, would you rather people love you or fear you??"

Ron Lewis
Ron Lewis

Neal who paid for that trash?

Aaron Mcgruder
Aaron Mcgruder

People are so quick ton put down Hillary Clinton but one thing her and Donald Trump have in common. At least she had the courage to say I'm sorry I made a bad judgment when it comes to the email scandal. Donald Trump has not admitted nothing or took responsibility for nothing that he have said disrespectful offensive and straight out racist. If you do not have the ability to say I'm sorry we you do something wrong you are not worthy of sitting in the overal Office

Bruno2
Bruno2

If you accept Hillary's "apologies" as being "courageous", I've got some swampland in Florida you may be interested in.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Any Hillary spin on the email scandal is meaningless as long as she continues to lie about it, as she did yesterday with Chris Wallace.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Four Pinocchios for Hillary, who once again with Chis Wallace on Fox news lied about classified email on her server in her feeble attempt to mischaracterize what James Comey actually said about her extreme carelessness.

MarkVV
MarkVV

@SGTGrit Comey’s statement to Congress: “We have no basis to conclude she lied to the FBI.”

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV @SGTGrit Comey was asked about her public comments, which conflicted with the facts born out by the FBI investigation, and he said they were not part of the investigation.  So, she lied to the American people, but told the truth to the FBI, to avoid a lying to a government investigator charge.  


What does that make her?   Untruthful and deceptive, yes.  Smart, not quite.  Experienced with being investigated, probably.  Well prepared by her lawyers, absolutely. 



MarkVV
MarkVV

@Bruno2 @RafeHollister You are so full of sanctimonious self-righteousness, it makes me sick. You KNOW that nothing this “this woman” has done was a mistake, because, of course, you have never made any mistake in your life. You have never said anything that was not true, have you? How well do you personally know Hillary Clinton, Bruno2, that you can make that judgment? Why don’t you tell us all about your personal association with her, that allows you to write that?

The people I know who support her are aware of her failings, but also of their own, and also of her strengths. They are not despicable, you are.

Bruno2
Bruno2

@RafeHollister  I had to laugh when Hillary continued to characterize her choice to violate federal law as some kind of "mistake" based upon the "convenience" of carrying one communication device rather than two.  Nothing this woman has ever done was a "mistake".  It was a calculated move by which she could control the information that she released later, pure and simple, which is borne out by her attempt to delete 33,000 emails that she deemed to be "personal" later on when asked for the contents of her server.

I'm not sure who is more despicable, Hillary with her blatant lies, or her lemming followers who seem to accept everything she says at face value.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@MarkVV @Bruno2 @RafeHollister 40 years of unethical self enrichment and dishonesty, but this time she is telling the truth?


Anyone with a brain can see that she set the server up as a way to get around the Freedom of Information Act, which is a crime in itself.  She was so concerned about protecting her emails from the public.  One dishonest action usually leads to more and she probably didn't intend to traffic in classified information when she started this email process, but most folks would have stopped this foolishness, once she saw that the nations secrets were at risk of being compromised.  But here again, she put her own needs above those of the country, instead of saying, whoa I better stop this private email system and get some help here.

lvg
lvg

@SGTGrit Under questioning before Congress, Comey admit the classification markings  on the e-mails was a mistake and they were really not classified.Of course Cons ignore that.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

What kind of idiot thinks (or, worse, says out loud) that Hillary is the most qualified to run for the office?

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

One who won the Presidency handily, twice, and will likely leave office with above average approvals. That kind of idiot.