DNC 2016: Dems score a touch … wait, they fumbled!

DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., spoke Monday morning to her home-state delegates, who were ... not exactly enthusiastic about hearing her. (AP Photo / Matt Slocum)

DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., spoke Monday morning to her home-state delegates, who were … not exactly enthusiastic about hearing her. (AP Photo / Matt Slocum)

If you were a high-level Democrat, I imagine you spent much of last week laughing and high-fiving as the GOP stumbled through the plagiarism in Melania Trump’s speech, its high-handed silencing of dissent in a floor vote about the convention rules, and the boos for Ted Cruz when he refused to endorse Donald Trump — among other lowlights. And then, you went to Philadelphia determined to pull a Leon Lett:

Here is a sampling of the headlines from the Democratic National Convention (so far!):

This was all before lunch on Monday. And I may have missed a few things.

Leaving Cleveland after the end of the Republican National Convention, one refrain I heard was that all the Democrats had to do was play nice and play it safe, and Hillary Clinton would be able to pull away from the unpredictable Trump.

Well …

Worse for the Democrats, voters apparently didn’t think Cleveland went so badly. Trump has gotten a real bounce, leading in four straight national polls and re-taking the national lead by a small margin. Most important for Trump, the post-convention bounce has put him in the mid- and upper-40s, after he had been stuck for a long time in the low-40s and even upper-30s. The one thing he had to do in Cleveland was make people think they could afford to roll the dice with him, as opposed to going with the known entity in Clinton, and it appears voters think he did that. In the only national, four-way poll taken since the end of Cleveland, CNN-ORC showed Trump leading by 5 points — a 10-point swing in just over a week.

In maybe the most stunning sign of reversal, FiveThirtyEight.com now shows Trump having a 57.5 percent chance of winning the election — up from 20.9 percent just two weeks ago.

Of course, the Democrats have a few days to change the story line coming out of Philadelphia — just as Trump managed to sideline the talk about plagiarism and booing. But, to use another football example (and apologies for going north of the border for this one), here’s how this election has been going lately:

 

 

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Mustang100
Mustang100

Yes Howdy, you and the rest just keep on believing that, all the way to November.

HowdyJune
HowdyJune

Kyle - which Democratic Convention were you watching?  The one I was watching show a lot of unity and said nothing about Ms. Schultz.  One thing you said that did strike me however - when Mr. Obama became President on January 20, 2009, we were, in fact, losing 800,000 jobs per month, the S&P 500 was below 700, people were losing their homes, the Atlanta housing market was cratering, bank closings in Georgia were setting records, unemployment was soaring, and the State was facing a severe budget crisis. Remember?  


Well, look where we are now.  The unemployment rate is less than half what it was in 2009, the S&P has tripled, I just got my tax notice and my home is valued above what it was in 2007, I don't know of any American soldiers that were killed in combat this week or, in fact, this past month - all that tells me that this nation is in far, far better shape today than it was in 2009.  Before you publish your next column, please check your facts.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Who could have guessed that the irrational fear and panic of 2008 would have quickly reversed itself?

Your Idiot Messiah didn't fix that--TARP did. Thank you for cleaning up another Democrat mess (CRA, "roll the dice"), President Bush.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Lil_Barry_Bailout Yes, no thanks to Obama.  He was preaching gloom and doom until late February when Bill Clinton finally told him to quit bellyaching.  I'd actually sent him an e-mail after he got elected saying the same thing (in a polite manner), not that I expected anyone to pay attention.  Finally Bill showed some common sense and got Obama to quit damaging consumer confidence every time he opened his mouth.  Every time he had a chance to talk, it was, "Oh things are so bad and they are going to get so much worse...."

Bruno2
Bruno2

Biggest unintentional humor tonight was Michelle Obama lecturing the audience “Don’t let anyone ever tell you that this country isn’t great.”


/rolling eyes

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Bruno2 Funny!  The one who was never proud of America until her husband got elected and who had a real problem raising her daughters in a White House built by slaves (NPR thought that was the highlight of her speech!).

lvg
lvg

Kyle- I saw several touchdowns tonight and no fumbles. 

Bruno2
Bruno2

@lvg I hope that tomorrow night you turn off the NFL network and watch the DNC.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Much better blog than the stupids next door.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@SGTGrit @TheBrewer


That and they're jobless. Some of them (gotnolife) have been on Bookmans blog for over 10 years. 

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit @TheBrewer Knee-jerk reactions based on the traditional left and the traditional right.  We need a third party.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

Debbie Crapperman Shiltz gets booed off stage by the left wing cult followers and immediately gets a job with Hitlery KKKlinton.

Yep, no corruption there.  

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

Looks like Jay Bookman is on board the SS Crazy right now in his conspiracy theory about Trump and Putin.


I do love me some left wing meltdowns. 

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Hillary has promised to infringe on our First and Second Amendment rights.  Not secretly, not in dog whistles, but right out in the open.

She's a liberal fascist and to support her is un-American.

Trump's merely an unreliable jerk.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@Lil_Barry_Bailout


Yep, one of her cult followers is on the record saying she wants to ban all firearms. 

Trump is a jerk but it is fun watching him piss off the left. 

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

I'm watching PMSNBC morons explain how there is complete unity in the demokkkrat party right now.

It's so fun to watch the left have a complete meltdown. It couldn't happen to a worse group of losers. 

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@TheBrewer

They really are disgusting.

I get why the parasites support them, but you have to be a real America-hating moron otherwise.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

Absolute chaos at the opening of the DNC convention. My, my

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit Chaos in both parties. How about a party for the independents?

Starik
Starik

@TheBrewer @Starik @SGTGrit The Democrats, obviously, are in chaos with the obviously unfair primary system. They have a basically unnatural coalition of blacks, unionists and other representatives of the status quo, like Wall Street.  Trump has unnecessarily alienated Hispanics and the old Republican coalition has fallen apart - old line conservatives and the religious right.  Trump has opposition within his party, and so does Clinton.

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

Let me preface this by saying I did NOT vote for Trump in the primary. 


That said, he is the GOP Party nominee and he at this point pretty much HAS to be the preferred viable alternative candidate for conservatives. How can it POSSIBLY be in the interest of ANY conservative to have Hillary sit in the White House for four years (or longer), appointing liberal judges, wielding the power of Executive Orders and the Administration to advance the socialist agenda, and continuing her ruinous selloff of American interests for Clinton personal profit? How could that be in our interest? 


It SHOULD be FAR easier for conservatives in the GOP to rein in a President Trump than it is to rein in a President Clinton. That is, if you buy the line it is "conservatives" who hold this concern. It's pretty clear now it is primarily GOP operatives who have something to lose who are at odds with the Trump candidacy, insider/political power brokers, RINOS, and . . . the long list of loser/whiners in the primary. That's BEFORE you start parsing the bones and campaign promises Trump has thrown out to attract conservative voters, a list which, though it lacks specificity, has a lot of positive directional elements.



xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@DawgDadII He has a long history as a liberal democrat.  He was oozing over Pelosi just 8 years ago.  He has suggested in interviews that he would appoint liberal judges.  His own kids, who spoke at the convention, didn't even vote for them because they were registered Democrats in New York.  So its not at all clear that he would be a conservative.  Also, he has totalitarian tendencies evidenced by his suing anybody who opposes him and his continuing attacks on Republicans when he should be wooing those voters and attacking the Democrats.  He used eminent domain to take an old lady's house for a casino parking lot.  There are many conservative principles he clearly does not embrace.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@DawgDadII And then there is his behavior as a total jerk, his nutty conspiracy theories with Cruz's dad, his attack on Cruz's wife, his attacks on Rand Paul's and Carly Fiorna's looks and his refusal to condemn his supporters threatening behavior towards Cruz's wife and towards Cruz at the convention.  He's got a screw loose.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@DawgDadII And note:  he didn't say a SINGLE word endorsing Republicans for the House or Senate in his speech.  Not one. 

lvg
lvg

would take Cruz right now over Trump in a heartbeat.. At least he would not sell US out to Russkies.


"Vote your conscience"


Most everyone here would have a yuge problem doing that.

Starik
Starik

@lvg Religious nut with flawed character.  Not attractive.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@Starik @lvg

"Religious nut with flawed character.  Not attractive.'

Says the girl who has only voted demokkkrat her entire life.

Rickster_
Rickster_

Amazing that DWS is paying a higher price for her e-mails than HRC did for hers.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Rickster_ What price?  She got a cushy job in the HRC campaign, announced the day she resigned.  Guess she won't be talking.

Bruno2
Bruno2

Well, if everything goes as planned, I'll be blogging from Savannah in a few weeks.  Six years in Columbus was about 5 1/2 years too long for me.

When asked to summarize Buddhism in two words, my spiritual hero, Shunryu Suzuki, famously said "Everything changes."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8

Bruno2
Bruno2

Mark VV:  It will be interesting to see how many “law and order” Republicans and their supporters will condemn the hacking of DNC emails, and demand the investigation of the role of Russia.

In case you're unaware, Mark, the US government makes Russia and China look like amateurs when it comes to cyber-spying.  Are you forgetting the scandal a few years back when it was revealed we were spying on our allies??

MarkVV
MarkVV

@Bruno2 In case you manage to understand this post, what has what you have written to do with my comment?

Bruno2
Bruno2

@MarkVV @Bruno2 I think most people understand that it's hypocritical to condemn behavior which you are guilty of yourself.  The only reason you are outraged is that the Dems got caught with their pants down.

lvg
lvg

Truly amazing that someone who is conservative  could care less about Putin meddling in US elections and that the cons would even dare use and glorify e-mails they obtained through Russian intelligence service ( with help of  the traitor probably).

Trump and Manafort may as well do daily briefings for the cons  from the KGB.

lvg
lvg

@Kyle_Wingfield @lvg Tell me one thing Trump has ever said negative about Russia or Putin. Is he lifting the sanctions or not? And how much does he show on his returns (business included ) that he owes the Russians?

Screaming for those returns aren't you guys?

lvg
lvg

@Kyle_Wingfield @lvg """If he wins in November, would Trump allow Russia’s sphere of influence to grow in Eastern Europe? These are the questions that are rife in Russian official circles. Here in Moscow, I often hear Trump being compared to Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the extremist nationalist politician whom people call Zhirik and who is known as the “palace jester” of Russian politics because of his calls to execute dissenting ministers, lawmakers and generals by shooting them in Red Square, or to reduce the birth rate in Russian Muslim republics by imposing a financial penalty for the birth of a third child. “I admire Trump, he is like our Zhirik, they both say what they think,” Aleksandr, a Nizhny Novgorod student and supporter of the Rodina party—originally a coalition of 30 nationalist and far-right groups—told me. “See, the success of palace jesters like our Zhirinovsky or the American Trump is easy to explain: They are not afraid of saying what other king’s courtiers are afraid of saying.”

Or as another Trump fan named Sergei Markov said: “It is as clear as God’s day, Trump is anti-American establishment and people supporting him are also against the American establishment and therefore, they are pro-Putin, as our Putin is also against the U.S. decision-makers but he is with American people.”


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/2016-trump-putin-russia-gop-platform-214074#ixzz4FSCg9oLd 

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@lvg Some of us care about such allegations, but aren't going to jump just because the Dems, embarrassed by hackers and leaks, point the finger. Goodness knows I'm not a Trump apologist, but let's see a little more evidence.

ICycle
ICycle

@Kyle_Wingfield @lvg So Kyle, if you aren't supporting Trump, WHO are you supporting?  I ask b/c  I am in a real predicament - don't want either of them and a vote for the Libertarian is a wasted vote.  No?

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@ICycle I don't think any vote that's cast sincerely and purposefully is wasted. If you can't stand who the R's and D's are putting up -- and neither can I -- then voting third- (or fourth-) party, or abstaining, are legitimate choices in my book.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@Kyle_Wingfield @lvg 

Kyle, I think Trump, merely stated that he would review a NATO's member's fulfillment of commitment to supporting NATO. But when pressed for a specific answer as to how he would respond to any aggression against a NATO member, he kind of backed off.
Meaning he didn't say he would not fulfill our commitment to coming to the defense of a NATO member regardless of circumstance.

Starik
Starik

@SGTGrit @Kyle_Wingfield @lvg Given the current size of our Army, could we defend one of the Baltic states without using Nukes?  Anybody for a nuclear war?

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@ICycle @Kyle_Wingfield @lvg I also think that in this election, if you can't find the lesser of two evils, it is even more important that you vote and don't just leave president blank.  Send a message to both parties.  Vote for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein or write in a name.  Ross Perot made an impact in 1992 even while losing.

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@Starik @SGTGrit @Kyle_Wingfield @lvg We would beat the Russians in a conventional war.  It would just take a while.  And we probably couldn't keep them from over-running the Baltics before we pushed them back.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@xxxzzz @Starik @SGTGrit @Kyle_Wingfield

ingfield @lvg 

It would be a very difficult war now in comparison to what such an engagement would have been 10 years ago. We're now much weaker militarily but we probably would prevail, however, nuclear weapons could very well need to be deployed in some fashion.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@lvg If the Russian government is actually working with Trump to help him win, then yes, that's extremely disturbing and perhaps treasonous. But right now it's all speculation.

For now, I'm far more concerned about Trump publicly saying he'd walk away from NATO and leave our allies vulnerable to Russia in an actual shooting war. That's reason enough for me not to support him, although I have other reasons as well.

SGTGrit
SGTGrit

@xxxzzz @Starik @SGTGrit @Kyle_Wing

field @lvg 

The horror scenario would be the Chinese coordinated intervention into IndoChina and the South China Sea. The Third Marine Division  would be hard pressed to repel such a movement and that would certainly usher in a full scale nuclear war. The good news is that the Chinese know it.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@lvg

"could care less"

COULDN'T CARE LESS. Why is this so hard for left wingers to understand? Correct grammar is alien to the left wing mind. 

Starik
Starik

@xxxzzz @Starik @SGTGrit @Kyle_Wingfield @lvg With an Army of 140,000? Close to the Russian border?  Remember the rules: never fight a land war in Asia, or the Russians anywhere near Russia. 


I hope you know that the Army is at 1940 levels.