Why Georgia’s RNC delegates should go ahead and dump Trump

A protester uses a trash can as a ballot box for Donald Trump, Denver, July 1 (Marc Piscotty / Getty Images)

A protester uses a trash can as a ballot box for Donald Trump, Denver, July 1 (Marc Piscotty / Getty Images)

Let’s say you’re one of Georgia’s 76 delegates to the Republican National Convention, bound soon for Cleveland. You are bombarded with questions about your loyalty to presumptive nominee Donald Trump. What might be going through your head?

Maybe you think about the headlines this past week. They should have been dominated by the FBI’s revelations Hillary Clinton was “extremely careless” in handling classified information as secretary of state. Then you think about Trump’s own antics:

Monday: He explains why a staff member posted an anti-Semitic meme on his Twitter account.

Tuesday: He praises the terrorist-fighting record of Saddam Hussein, who actually paid and harbored them.

Wednesday: He announces he raised $51 million in June, far better than his paltry May figure (yuge!) but still $17 million less than Clinton brought in (sad!).

Thursday: He picks a verbal fight with one senator, bad-mouths others, and butchers a question about the Constitution during a closed-door session with Republicans on Capitol Hill. The New York Times reports he plays coy when asked if he’d actually serve if he were elected.

Perhaps you turn next to the opinion polls and see Trump is about 5 points behind Clinton in the Real Clear Politics average. You see that, since taking a small and short-lived lead over her in late May, Trump has trailed her in 32 of the last 34 national polls.

Then you look at the swing states and, stifling a gasp at seeing Georgia on the list, tally the polls. In the 11 swing states, Trump has led Clinton in 10 polls, trailed her in 24, and been tied in five. That winning percentage, in some states Trump absolutely must win, is .321.

You check: That is worse than the wretched Braves. Who, of course, fired their manager.

You wonder: Should you and your fellow delegates fire Trump?

You know such a move would alienate many in the party and probably ensure defeat in November. But you feel equally strongly the party is already on its way to defeat in November, because many voters feel alienated.

You tell yourself not every Republican wanted John McCain or Mitt Romney as their nominee, and many held their nose and voted for them anyway. Then you remind yourself many of Trump’s supporters are the ones who sat at home in those elections, putting Barack Obama in the White House both times. And you ask, who are they to decide what it means to be a “loyal Republican” now?

The part about Georgia being a swing state particularly bothers you. You don’t believe Clinton can actually win the state — that would take an epic GOP collapse — but it occurs to you that a party that has lost the popular vote in five of the past six presidential elections can’t afford even to come close to ceding ground. You see no state in which the GOP is truly gaining ground in the meantime.

You believe the party is heading toward the kind of loss from which it might never recover. The magnitude of the defeat, the seats sure to be lost in Congress — those are one thing. But what the party is really losing with Trump at the helm is what it means to be a Republican, so long as he redefines it with every poorly conceived, fact-challenged utterance.

Do you resolve to work to nominate someone else, in the hopes that person would at least fight honorably?

I hope you do.

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Legong
Legong

You don't really believe in the primary system, do you Kyle? 

You know, those state by state elections in which Donald Trump netted more votes than any Republican candidate in historywhile eliminating opponents who disappointed fellow Republicans and conservatives by differing too little with the Left on key issues like immigration and political correctness.

Those voters have left you with a decision: which nominee, Trump or Clinton, is more likely to name conservatives to the Supreme Court?

lvg
lvg

"" It is significant that Ginsburg chose to speak out now. She has been on the court during the presidential campaigns of several conservative Republicans, including George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney. She never criticized them. But there is, as even many Republicans have acknowledged, something different about the Donald.

It’s not just Trump’s misogyny.

It’s not only that he described Mexican immigrants as rapists and proposed barring Muslims from entering the United States.

It’s not just that he questions whether Mexican-American and Muslim-American judges are capable of being fair to him. 

It’s not just his statement, as an African-American protester was being ejected from one of his rallies: “See in the good old days this didn’t happen because they used to treat them very very rough.”

It’s not only that Trump was reluctant to reject the  endorsement of David Duke or that he has found nice things to say about Saddam Hussein, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un.

It’s also that Trump has no governing principles or coherent ideologies other than “believe me and do what I say” and an appeal to a radical ethnocentrism among white people. This is the mark of a fascist. 


ww.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2016/07/12/can-a-supreme-court-justice-denounce-a-candidate/ginsburg-knows-if-trump-wins-the-rule-of-law-is-at-risk

lvg
lvg

Now Trump and Justice Ginsberg getting into a pis-ing war of words with each other. She is demanding he disclose his tax returns or step down.

tomkat1111
tomkat1111

Why would you have a primary if you are not going to respect the results ?

Rcd7530
Rcd7530

This opinion writer is your typical holier than though over educated idiot.

He's one of the reasons the ajc sucks so badly.

lvg
lvg

Is Christie Kreme going to get the nod from the Donald? That would really throw the Cons for a loop. Two RINOS on the Ticket  who have leaned Dem at times.

Glenn Lanham
Glenn Lanham

 Georgia’s RNC delegates should go ahead and dump Trump if they do they will be cutting there on  neck i will not vote for any of them

BullSullivan
BullSullivan

It all comes down to this, when is life created. To many, obviously including Mr. Wingfield, life begins not at conception, but at birth. Put more simply, according to Mr. Wingfield's  hypothesis, babies spring forth from the womb fully endowed with all the rights guaranteed citizens, but, surprisingly may be terminated, with indifference, in their mother's womb up to a minute or two prior to birth.  

The question of Mr. Trump's election comes down to the belief held by some "conservatives" and all progressives that scientific methodology, cause and effect, logic, natural order and progression have no place in rational discussions of human ontogenesis, either regarding cellular symbiosis, or potentially, in geriatric dependency.

This election will determine not only will we continue to ignore nature and tolerate non-medically necessary abortion of living human tissue, but whether, in the near future,  we will tolerate euthanasia of those elderly humans, who like fetuses are unable to survive without a continuing symbiotic relationship with a host provider.

If Mr Wingfield has no qualms regarding supporting Abortion, how soon will he, and others like him, support government protected "mercy killing" of humans suffering from Dementia or Alzheimer Disease, or even those who serve no useful purpose and offer to service to the State.

I am astounded that this newspaper allows him and others who support Abortion to claim to be conservative. I know of no example in science, or the liberal arts for that matter, where an instance of an organism, or perhaps a drug, or a theory or policy that offers the potential of hope, of growth, of contribution to society is willingly terminated. Examples of unplanned occurrences which prove to be of benefit to humankind are called by scientists serendipitous, outcomes unexpected, but valuable often beyond any reasonable expectation.

How many geniuses, how many Nobel laureates, how many Physicians, even, how many Pulitzer's have been sacrificed on the floor of Abortion Clinics?


It is not "Conservative" to tolerate the election of anyone who would allow this waste of human potential to continue. I can not ascertain your motives, nor will I judge your morals, Mr. Wingfield, but your position belies any natural tendencies to conservatism, it is in fact, in accord and agreement with Euroamerican progressive thought, it is liberal and it is ungentlemanly, and of course, thoughtless.

Any one who is a Conservative must value potential, must protect the product of human conception, human gestation, human birth, and the progression and value of human life from when it begins to its end at a natural death. No one, no government, no mother, no father has a right to deny a human life its potential, its fulfillment, at any time under any circumstance. This obligation extends far beyond the pregnancy, but that is another discussion altogether.  

I am grieved that my party, the Party of Jefferson, of Jackson, of Roosevelt and of Kennedy has become the party that promotes abortion, tolerates the death penalty for crimes other than treason, and supports military excursions in far away lands as readily as Republicans. But above all of it, I am no less a "conservative" than our Founding Father, George Washington, who, given the evidence of his times, his papers, his actions, would have supported none of the above. He was a Conservative, you sir, Mr. Wingfield, are not.

                   

Bennet
Bennet

FYI Kennedy was a Democrat.

lvg
lvg

@BullSullivan How many unwanted babies have you adopted Mr. Conservative?

Rcd7530
Rcd7530

Wingfield is not a conservative

Rcd7530
Rcd7530

Wingfield is in camp with that mental midget bill kristol. Two morons hand in hand.

aajones
aajones

Very good article.  I've been pondering the same things myself.  The GOP is in a no win situation.  I'm sorry that you get so many responses from trolls.  It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation in order to arrive at realistic solutions and compromises anymore.

JRichard
JRichard

You can rip Donald Trump on every misstep you want to, but there is NO one in the Republican Party who can rival him and none of his missteps compare to the liar, criminal and traitor his is up against.  Unfortunately, most of the U.S. voter pool depends on socialism to survive so there is little anyone from the Republican side to do to counter the freebies and "something for nothing"!  You should be encouraging delegates to get behind him, help him secure a great V.P. running mate and kick the crap out of the idiot who does not understand "Top Secret".  If you and other attempting to demonize Mr. Trump succeed, you will likely never see another open election in this country!

Rcd7530
Rcd7530

A diatribe from a worthy disciple of the pathological, ignoramus and buffoon Clinton suck up.

lvg
lvg

@JRichard What e-mail have you seen that Hillary mishandled that was marked "Top Secret"???

Not what Comey found.  What did he mean when said a couple had "classification markings" Do you know? or are you repeating what Limbaugh and Hannity told you?

MarkVV
MarkVV

@JRichard A diatribe from a worthy disciple of the pathological liar, ignoramus and buffoon Trump.

Jackalope
Jackalope

That may be true. He may indeed have more prop,e supporting him than any other Republican. But so does Hillary, and I don't want to vote for her either...and for pretty much the same reasons.

lvg
lvg

I wonder if the women  Trump raped think he is a "law and order " candidate?

UltraElf
UltraElf

@lvg I wonder if the people who were going to testify against Clinton will ever come back to life.

Dearie
Dearie

if you are voting for Hillary this chant will come in handy ~ "You knew I was a snake when you picked me up."

BIGDAWG31650
BIGDAWG31650

@lvg @Dearie That is pretty pitiful, a lying do whatever is going to put money in the Clinton's banking account president.  Is that what you really want?

xxxzzz
xxxzzz

@lvg @Dearie Snakes are efficient, competent creatures.  Hillary is neither.

lvg
lvg

@Dearie I would rather have a snake dealing with Putin, the Chinese  and Kim Jung Ill  than someone who worships dictators.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@lvg @Dearie

I'd rather have someone who isn't a corrupt piece of crap like Hillary and her rapist husband.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Kyle, my question is in need of an answer.

See what you can do about that. 

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@FIGMO2


If Trump bails out then the GOP would be in freakout mode. They'd nominate someone like Romney and you'd probably see an ok turnout but he'd lose to Hillary. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Which brings me to a question I've been intending to ask.

Say Donald picks a VP at the convention, then at some point follows through on his bailout.

What happens going forward?

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@TheBrewer @FIGMO2 But admittedly, no one ever imagined a scenario in which the winner decided he/she didn't want the job.

TheBrewer
TheBrewer

@Kyle_Wingfield @TheBrewer @FIGMO2


Sigh, I remember asking you what plan b would be and then we got into who we'd like to see them nominate. You said you'd be fine with Cruz at this point after I said I voted Cruz. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@TheBrewer @FIGMO2

You appear to be a rapid fire blogger.

Patience can be a virtue. It's the only one I have.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Kyle_Wingfield @FIGMO2

FINALLY! I have a good excuse for my delayed response. A storm caused a power outage.

Thanks for the response, Kyle.

Before HIS (Trump's) inauguration? No way that's happening. I was thinking in terms of during the general or shortly after accepting the nomination.

A nine-ring circus? Well, it's not like we haven't had front row seats to that kinda performance over the course of this presidential campaign.


UltraElf
UltraElf

@FIGMO2 Alan West and Herman Cain or Newt? Or how about the Texas Governor?

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@FIGMO2 You mean the bailout like the one envisioned in the NYT article I blogged about last week (winning the election, then bailing)?

If so, I think it depends on when he bailed out. If before the Electoral College (which isn't until sometime in December IIRC) then I'm not sure. If it's after the Electoral College but before the inauguration, I *think* his VP would be in line for the presidency, but there would probably be lawsuits involved. There is a chance, based on my perusal of the Constitution, that we could actually end up with President Biden, at least for a little while.

Obviously, if he intends to bail while creating the least amount of disturbance, he'd do it after the inauguration. But it'd be a nine-ring circus no matter what.