The Republican contest goes on, minus Marco Rubio

It was a good night for Trump, but far from a knockout. (AP Photo / David Goldman)

It was a good night for Trump, but far from a knockout. (AP Photo / David Goldman)

We have a split decision.

As the polls indicated, Donald Trump won Florida but lost Ohio to John Kasich on Tuesday. That leaves Trump — and the GOP — in a kind of limbo. Including three big states yet to be called Tuesday, Trump now needs almost 60 percent of the remaining delegates in order to clinch the nomination before the convention. That’s not impossible, but it’s well above the pace he has set so far (46 percent, albeit through proportionally awarded states until Tuesday).

And he’ll have to do it against a smaller field.

As expected, a loss in Florida spelled the end of Marco Rubio’s campaign. The senator ran — easily — the most optimistic campaign this year. (I would argue that goes for candidates in both parties.) But it’s not a year in which Republican voters are rewarding optimism. It’s not a year in which Republican voters are rewarding specifics on policy, or clear understanding of issues, or an actual chance of winning a general election. It’s a year in which Republican voters appear ready to shake their fists all the way to defeat in November.

Kasich’s win in Ohio isn’t enough to get the nomination, and after Tuesday he should be mathematically eliminated from the delegate race. That leaves Ted Cruz. The Texan still has a chance, but it will require him to unite virtually all of Rubio’s supporters — and, should Kasich leave the race before too long, his as well — and win a bunch of close contests over the next few months. I don’t know if it can really be done. But he just might win enough to make it a contest in Cleveland.

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bu22
bu22

Thomas Sowell, once again, puts it very well in this mornings AJC (this link was easier to find:  http://www.mydaytondailynews.com/news/news/opinion/nation-at-a-dangerous-political-crossroads-this-we/nqk4p/  )  "It is seldom that the fate of a nation can be traced to what happened on one particular day. But that may be what happens in the United States of America based on Tuesday’s elections.

That is because the front-runners in both political parties are not merely inadequate but appalling — and the vote in this Tuesday’s primaries may be the last chance for the voters to unite behind someone else.

We are, in fact, at a crossroads, and our future and our children’s futures depend on whether we can come up with some presidential candidate better than either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

In other times and in other conditions, one bad president could not ruin a great nation. We survived Jimmy Carter and we may survive Barack Obama, but there is no guarantee that we can survive an unlimited amount of reckless decisions in a dangerous world....

McGarnagle
McGarnagle

Kyle: Now that your candidate has bowed out the race, are you going to sit this one out or join in on the fist shaking?

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@McGarnagle

There's a third option for Kyle - he could support the center-right candidacy which Mrs. Clinton represents.

TicTacs
TicTacs

Will the fight be on pay for view ?

dreema
dreema

Kyle, thanks for this: "But it’s not a year in which Republican voters are rewarding optimism. It’s not a year in which Republican voters are rewarding specifics on policy, or clear understanding of issues, or an actual chance of winning a general election. It’s a year in which Republican voters appear ready to shake their fists all the way to defeat in November."


Can reason prevail with so much fist-shaking?

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

The majority of Democrats can't even pay their own bills. I guess they're all misunderstood Einsteins.

TruthReallyHurts
TruthReallyHurts

@Lil_Barry. Your ignorance is showing again. Look at a Mel if the "red", I.e., GOP states and compare it to a map of the states whose citizens depend most on federal funds. Those maps would mirror each other. So it is the Republicans who can't pay their own bills. Fox News is bad for your brain.

Caius
Caius

Last night sealed the nomination for Trump. Now he has the job of uniting the party behind him.  That will not be easy as he has called everyone not on his staff "unflattering" names.  Now he needs them to support him. Can you call a person a dog on Monday and ask her to vote for you on Tuesday?  And one quarter of Republicans voters in exit polls say they could never support Trump.


Last night sealed the nomination for Clinton.  Now she has the job of uniting her party. And she has the job of getting 55% of women voters to vote for her.  That should be easy with Trump's record re women. But in politics nothing is carved in stone. She does that she is elected because she will carry all minorities voters except white males.

Trump also has a problem he has yet to address.  Democrats have won the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections. Can Trump make it 5 of 7?  How?




RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Caius She has one big primary that she has to win, the FBI primary is not looking favorable.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@RafeHollister @Caius the FBI primary is not looking favorable.


Been hearing a version of that for 25+ years now. Its down to wishful thinking at this point. 


Hey maybe a 12th Benghazi committee ?

Pub Heaven
Pub Heaven

Rafe has more faith in the Obama Justice Department than anyone here.

It's touching, really...

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Hedley_Lammar @RafeHollister @Caius 25 years of corruption and investigations and some gullible folks still think the Clintons are guilt free.  She finally may have overloaded her "Get out of Jail Free" card this time.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

The only way the GOP has a legitimate chance of winning is to unite behind the winner of the primary, probably Trump.  They keep fantasizing about some mainstream white horse candidate rising to the occasion.  If they run a traditional candidate, I assume it will be one who embraces Bushism, i.e., ambivalence to more illegal immigration, support for more job killing H1B and H2B visas, more muscular foreign policy, and more job killing/donor class enriching trade deals.  Their base has rejected that agenda, so how successful will they be.  They need to change their policies instead of running against the people who elected them.


People are voting for the message, not the messenger.  Trump and Cruz are getting 80-90% of the vote combined and yet the "elite" think the voters are somehow just angry and will eventually change their mind and vote for more of the status quo, which is absolutely delusional. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Trump is as likely to "CHANGE" as the people he rails against.

Don't like Republicans? Vote Trump.

Don't like Democrats? Vote Trump.

Don't like Liberals? Vote Trump.

Don't like Conservatives? Vote Trump.

Trump's a floater. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@FIGMO2 @Eye wonder - Citizens United was a  hit piece of legislation targeted towards Clinton.  She, and the Dems have the right to mention it and wish for its defeat. Its justifiable homicide.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

@Eye wonder @FIGMO2

Though not a Trump supporter, it's clear his supporters voted against the big moneyed interests. Your side is voting FOR the BIG MONEYED interests.

Never mention Citizens United again. Trump supporters have defeated your argument against...

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@FIGMO2

Yip, he's a floater all right. And he belongs to the GOP. Here's hoping Mrs. Clinton flushes both him and it down the toilet come November.

DrTruth
DrTruth

@Hedley_Lammar "a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government"


Hmmm.....Wasn't aware Obama is a right-winger.  Now I know.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Fascism is a totalitarian philosophy, best represented by the left in this country.

lowlow
lowlow

Trump continues to get a lot of votes despite many bashing him. The silent majority is speaking.  I don't think the press gets it.  People want a tough minded, business person that is middle of the road/liberal on many social issues and not a Tea Party guy. Trump offers that. The press many times makes it seem as if Trump is winning only because of immigration and anti-Washington establishment vote. I think there is more to the high vote count than that. Count the votes - its got to be more than that.  People voting for Trump are not just the ones who have high interest in those issues but people who also believe we need to do something for the economy, have tough foreign policy and yet who is not aligned with the ultra right Tea Party.  Trump offers that. Many pay no attention to the squabbling between the ultra right and ultra left who are really nothing more than the loud but slim minority.  The Republican establishment better get behind him and I think they will.    

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

@lowlow

Of course the Republican establishment will get behind Trump. Having no principles or moral center gives them the kind of flexibility to do that and not even bat an eyelid.

Regarding the 'silent majority,' I have a feeling said majority isn't telling you what you think it is telling you. I know more than a few people who voted for Trump in the primary not because they want him to be President, but because they want to give the GOP the middle finger.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@lowlow - If Trump is "middle of the road" I'm Malibu Barbie.  Just saying....

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Eye wonder @lowlow Having no principles or moral center gives them the kind of flexibility to do that and not even bat an eyelid.


That is what makes the Clintons so successful, so you want morals and principals or victories.

TicTacs
TicTacs

Cruz is no Texan, he's a Canadian with 2 Canadian Parents at birth.    The GOP is a big joke.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

It's a year in which Republicans can't even win their own nominating contest.

It's a year in which Real Americans who work hard, pay the bulk of the taxes, and raise their families correctly have had enough of people they elect lay down with Democrat dogs.

Not that Trump is the answer--he's a jerk--but don't be surprised if he's competitive with the dishonest, corrupt, and incompetent Hillary.

DrTruth
DrTruth

@Lil_Barry_Bailout It's a year in which Republicans are tired of being told who their candidate will be by the Establishment (just add TRUMP + Cruz votes).


It's a year where the Democrats fixed their election (coronation) of another slime ball Clinton.  The so-called "Super Delegates" are how they fixed their election.  She could lose the popular vote to Bernie & still roll all over him to the nomination.


It's politics....It's all corrupt.  Especially when the Clintons are involved.

Pub Heaven
Pub Heaven

It's not a year. It's a trend line.

bendedknee
bendedknee

@Lil_Barry_Bailout Poor LIl Barry crying over failure of another Bible thumping Neocon loud mouth who accomplished nothing while in Congress and just wants to feed the military machine more money  while getting campaign bribes from the 1%.

DrTruth
DrTruth

@DebbieDoRight  Actually, I'm waiting for the African-American population to blame the destruction of their family units on the policies and welfare payment systems devised and implemented by the Democratic Party....Waiting......Still waiting......Still Wai


Slavery was founded by the Democrat party.  After Republicans took it away, the Democrats simply found a more "sophisticated" method for enslaving African-Americans:  Make them think you have their backs, give them free stuff and they will vote 95-98% for Democrats in elections.


The saddest thing in this entire country is African-Americans have been BRAIN-WASHED that Republicans BAD, Democrats GOOD.  In reality, African-Americans have more core beliefs and faith in common with Republicans than the Democrats that have once again enslaved them.


The first black president has done less for African-Americans than GW Bush.  Young black males now enjoy a 50% unemployment rate and there are more blacks on Welfare & food stamps than ever before in the history of this country. 


NINETY PERCENT of black murders are committed by other blacks while Obama sits up in the WH and does nothing about it and his daughters wear $20,000 dresses to State Dinners.  SEVENTY-TWO percent of black children are now born out of wedlock....Yet they keep on believing the lies of their Democrat masters --- the ones responsible for putting them there.


Feeling angry yet at the Democrats?  Didn't think so.......Enjoy.

CardiganBoy
CardiganBoy

Heard someone say the other day that the next POTUS isn't in the race yet.  

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@CardiganBoy

If only.

We're doomed to two awful choices.  For me it will come down to voting against the person who is PROMISING to infringe on our rights and continue the failed slow-growth economic/regulation/tax/cronyism plan of the last seven years.

bendedknee
bendedknee

Marco is lucky - he got off the Titanic before it sank.

DrTruth
DrTruth

@lvg To do that he would've had to bail before the FL vote yesterday.  He rode the Titanic to the ocean floor last night.  He beat TRUMP in only ONE county in FL.  The only way it could've been worse is if he lost that one too.

DrTruth
DrTruth

Yeah, Marco Roboto "ran — easily — the most optimistic campaign this year"....You must have slept through the past few weeks.  Rubio attacked TRUMP and lost, just like Jebra.  There were literally millions and millions of $$$ of attack ads spent against TRUMP in FL the past few days on Rubio's behalf.  Somehow that's "optimistic" and positive in your world, I guess.


Rubio lost this a long time ago.  The gay foam parties....Lying to the people of FL by promising to NEVER, EVER support amnesty --- then going to DC and leading the Gang of Eight by AUTHORING the very amnesty bill that actually passed the Senate....By being a "no-show" Senator with a horrible voting record because, well, I guess he was just too busy to do his JOB.


The voters of Florida should be APPLAUDED!  They were lied to by Rubio and they didn't forget....If only ALL politicians were thrown out for lying once they get to DC we wouldn't have 1/2 of the problems in this country that we do.


Lyin' Ted Cruz, who is surrounded by the slimiest political operatives in politics, had just as YUGE of a losing night as Rubio.  Cruz's own daughter finds him repulsive --- just watch the video.  It's extremely disturbing.  Cruz would get absolutely CREAMED running as an extreme conservative vs Hillary in a country that has moved left of center....Completely destroyed in a landslide.


TRUMP will win states that in the NE & NW that Cruz could never win.  TRUMP has already run the South on Cruz.  If you can't win in your own party, you don't stand a chance in the General.  


TRUMP is the only way to take back the WH.  The sooner the GOP unites behind him, the sooner he can get on with destroying Hillary....TRUMP is no Bernie Sanders.

bu22
bu22

Fox was trying to explain Rubio's collapse.  One said it was the gang of 5.  One said it was Right to Rise ads questioning his readiness.  It was really Rubio himself.  Christie and Right to Rise were right.  Rubio did his 12 year old comic routine about Trump and proved that Christie and Right to Rise were right.  Rubio was not ready.  He will probably never be ready.  I thought it was pretty obvious from the first debate.  Christie and Right to Rise were simply targeting what they found in focus groups.  I am just amazed as was Christie that anyone saw anything in Rubio.  But then a lot more see something in Trump, so maybe most voters just care about persona and not substance.  "Trust me, you'll love it."  "Trust me, I'm electable and have a good story."