Tension in the Democratic primary hasn’t Bern-ed off yet

Sanders and Clinton, back when she thought she had him beaten.

Sanders and Clinton, back when she thought she had him beat.

The poll that came out Tuesday showing Bernie Sanders leading Hillary Clinton by 27 percentage points in New Hampshire was probably an outlier. But the three before that showing him ahead there by an average of 11 points, and the January polls from Iowa that (minus an outlier in Clinton’s favor) showing the pair in a virtual tie there, are having much the same effect on Democratic elites as Donald Trump’s unexpected staying power is having on their GOP counterparts: It’s making them extremely nervous.

Exhibit A is this New York Times story reporting that, after Hillary & Co. have played footsie with Sanders’ left-wing positions, the Clinton campaign is now starting the play the “socialist” card against the senator. They’re also issuing warnings about Sanders that sound much like what Republicans say about Trump, per this excerpt from the story:

“It is a scenario many Democrats long dismissed as even remotely plausible: the 74-year-old Mr. Sanders, a registered independent who self-identifies as a democratic socialist, as their nominee. But the possibility of his defeating Mrs. Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire next month has prompted some of her prominent supporters to discuss how they could attack Mr. Sanders if his candidacy began to look less like a threat and more like a runaway train: calling him unelectable and warning Republicans would have a field day if he were the Democratic nominee.” (emphasis added)

Exhibit B is this Washington Times story conveying Dems’ concerns that Sanders’ supporters, again like Trump’s backers, could decide to sit out the election if he’s not the nominee and they’re not sufficiently wooed to show up:

“Many of those Sanders voters are already primed by what they see as slights by the Democratic establishment, including a limited number of debates and a nasty dispute over access to party voter files.

“And they question whether Mrs. Clinton can carry the message of Mr. Sanders, who has cast his campaign as a call for voters to overturn the political order and push back against business and political elites he says are stiffing the vast majority of Americans.”

Finally, Exhibit C comes from NBC News, with speculation that the Democratic nominee still might not be Clinton or Sanders, in a way that reminds me of the on-again, off-again “draft Romney” chatter among Republicans:

“If she wins Iowa, Clinton will be set up to separate herself from Bernie Sanders in South Carolina and the March 1 primaries — after which her campaign can start to focus on the general election. But if she loses Iowa, then, yes, a highly competitive Democratic race will extend into April and May. And that’s not all — panicky Democrats will become even more nervous, Joe Biden’s phone will ring, Michael Bloomberg’s phone will ring, too.”

Biden just happened to mention a couple of weeks ago that he “regret(s)” not running for president “every day,” though he also called it “the right decision.”

And all of this happened even before Fox News’ huge report that some of the emails on Clinton’s private server had information that was of a higher classification level than even “top secret.”

If nothing else, this is a reminder that fluidity is part and parcel of electoral politics. Today’s lead by Trump or surge by Sanders may well be tomorrow’s historical footnote, if history is any guide. Just four years ago, Rick Santorum came from nowhere to win Iowa narrowly, nearly quadrupling the level of support he had in the polls just 15 days before the caucuses. It didn’t require a collapse of support for the front-runners at this point in that contest: Both Ron Paul and Mitt Romney finished with much the same percentage that they’d received in polls; they simply were surpassed.

But it’s also a reminder that the GOP isn’t the only party facing a struggle between its base and its establishment — and that the story of 2016 may end up being even wilder than we’ve yet guessed.

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lvg
lvg

And on the Republican side we have a choice between a narcisstic fascist who wants to emulate Putin  or an antisocial psychopath from Canada who wants to alienate everyone currently  in the three branches of government while acting as water boy of the 1% and Goldman Sachs.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Exhibit B is this Washington Times story conveying Dems’ concerns that Sanders’ supporters, again like Trump’s backers, could decide to sit out the election if he’s not the nominee and they’re not sufficiently wooed to show up 

I'll go with Exhibit B. Given Sanders' recent remarks about PP and NARAL being part of the establishment, I'm thinking he's not looking to win and that this was all a ruse to grease Hillary's skids.

His supporters ain't gonna like being used. Young folks are already disenchanted with politics and politicians.

Can't say as I blame 'em.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Sanders wins in IA and NH, due to voters aversion to Clinton. The Sanders phenomenon is limited to self described white "elite" voters, who wish to self flagellate the country.  Once the primaries move south, Hillary's black supporters will overwhelm the Bern.  If not, a little more pandering from her, urging them to keep the Barack collision together should work until the indictment comes.


She will be indicted, there is no other way the government can go and continue to keep its secrets safe.  There is no way to rationalize punishing Petreaus, Snowden, and others unless you prosecute Hillary.  If no indictment, expect severe bloodletting at the FBI and the Justice Dept, and backlash among the public, which will wreck her campaign.   Assuming she is indicted everyone expects her to drop out.


I don't think she has the moral grounding to make that wise decision to drop out.  She will go Jim Trafficant and rage against Kerry, Gore, Biden, or whatever old white person that will jump in the race.  It will be embarrassing for the country to have to once again go through the silly rationalizations and denials she will try to float as excuses.  I think we will again get lessons from the Clinton's on dictionary meanings.


GOP wins after the Dems inevitable candidate implodes.

Eye wonder
Eye wonder

The last time a Democratic presidential contender lost Iowa and then went on to win both the nomination and the Presidency was 1992.  The same then-contender and now former President also lost the New Hampshire primary in 1992.

Now, off to make some tea.

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

Let's see..a scumbag or a socialist...some choice you've got over there!

Lil_Barry_Bailout
Lil_Barry_Bailout

@RoadScholar @Lil_Barry_Bailout

Sanders gets credit for being the more honest Democrat in the race and for being less corrupted by Wall Street cash than Hillary.

His socialist program, however, makes zero sense--politically, practically, or mathematically.

McGarnagle
McGarnagle

Good points. 


Regardless, the amount of anger coming from the GOP base against the establishment leadership is off the charts and no where near close to that of the democrats.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@McGarnagle They try and equate the two as a means of tempering the imposition going on over there ( Jesus anybody see Palin shrieking last night ) 


But it isn't even in the same ballpark


Even were Clinton to lose Iowa narrowly and NH in a big way its smooth sailing for her after that in SC etc etc.





Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@McGarnagle I agree Dems aren't mad at their own party the way Reps are, but in the end the precise emotion involved doesn't necessarily matter. It's about whether they'll kiss and make up at the end, or not.