The say-anything candidate

Donald Trump

In this country, you are free to support any candidate for office you like. And the candidate, in turn, is free to make you look or feel like a fool for supporting him.

That is precisely what Donald Trump appears to be doing to a small but growing segment of the GOP primary electorate.

I think the rumors of Trumpmania are greatly exaggerated by those who would very much like to believe (and have others believe) Trump is representative of the Republican Party. Jeb Bush still leads the field by almost six points in the latest Real Clear Politics national polling average, prompting a Politico story yesterday asking if Bush was “breaking away from the Republican pack.”

Trump’s share of the vote is most accurately seen as a measure of how many GOP voters aren’t happy with the rest of the field and/or are generally frustrated with the party. Some of them, especially those who fit the latter description, like to think Trump is some sort of “truth teller” who’s willing to voice concerns that none of the “establishment” candidates will. This is not a wise judgment on their part:

The article at the link, dated Nov. 26, 2012, begins this way:

“The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax.

“Whether intended or not, comments and policies of Mitt Romney and other Republican candidates during this election were seen by Hispanics and Asians as hostile to them, Trump says.

“‘Republicans didn’t have anything going for them with respect to Latinos and with respect to Asians,’ the billionaire developer says.”

Ahem. I guess that’s why Trump is busy talking about “killers” and “rapists” from Mexico now?

That’s not the only part of his act. The Washington Post’s Hunter Schwarz compiled a list of “the many ways in which Donald Trump was once a liberal’s liberal.” Trump’s changing attitudes toward abortion, guns, health care, party affiliation and even Hillary Clinton are documented.

Somewhere, in a parallel universe, I imagine Bizarro Donald Trump is running to the left of Hillary Clinton in a Democratic presidential primary. And a handful of voters in that primary are also falling for his act and making up excuses about why his past statements are in conflict with his present ones for more than just expediency’s sake.

If you still think Trump is just telling the truths other candidates won’t, I suggest you email his campaign with other ideas. You never know: One of them just might be the next “truth” he tells.

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TomGaff
TomGaff

Every one thinks he acts like an idiot but he has some good points. Ok, how much foreign aid do we give Mexico? Someone, anyone, please answer? I would stop all aid to them until they stopped the illegal aliens (aka undocumented immigrants) from crossing their border into our country!! Put the ball in their court if they want our money!

Mustang100
Mustang100

Perot comes to mind. I think the Red and Blue Establishments fear Trump because he answers to no PACs, Super donors or anyone else, being self sufficient. You HAVE to admit he is correct on the Hispanic illegals criminal problem in the Southwest and the US justice system in general.

STColeman
STColeman

Congrats, GOP. You continue to reap the spoils of the Rove-Bush-Chaney regime, which bolstered the party with paper thin tenants based on fear and fake moral issues. They basically created the Tea Party, which turned into the Frankenstein monster they no longer can control, while firing up narrow-minded, low information voters who see Trump's brand of popularism as some sort of breath of fresh air.

Sadly, this should be a three-man race between truly viable candidates like Bush, Huntsman and Kasich. Instead, we have a 16-member clown show. It's embarrassing.

TheRealJDW
TheRealJDW

No question Turmp is a caricature...i.e....a picture, description, or imitation of a person or thing in which certain striking characteristics are exaggerated in order to create a comic or grotesque effect.

Problem is he is a caricature of today's Republican Party and while Trump is an exaggeration, the characteristics in question do in fact exist in the party as a whole.

Ralph-25
Ralph-25

The media types say this is a skillful attempt to gin up his T.V. contract negotiations.  He clearly has no real interest in any elected office and is objectionable even as a comedian.  I've never watched any of his T.V. shows - what are the comments?

DeaconBlues
DeaconBlues

I think that the wind in Bernie Sanders' sails right now is the collection of air spilled forth in gasps by established types of the Democrat establishment.  I think Trump enjoys the same source of propulsion from Republicans.  It's nice to see the wheels of politics squeak and grind every now and again.

JoelEdge
JoelEdge

I think you should be talking about why large chunks of Conservatives aren't going to vote for Bush.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Trump's a media hoe plowing weeds.

schnirt 

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Kyle, you should read this to get an idea about why Trump is appealing to so many in the base of the GOP.  John Hawkins says he is not hurting the GOP, there isn't much there to hurt, people only support the GOP as the lesser of two evils anyway, as the GOP is so ineffective and duplicitous, always choosing the donors over the voters. 


http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2015/07/11/five-big-things-the-other-candidates-can-learn-from-donald-trump-n2024100?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

30097
30097

Speaking of saying anything ...

Somehow, the Republican leadership (and our two Georgia senators) convinced themselves conservative voters would forget the Republican double-cross on amnesty and illegal immigration.

Enter, The Donald.

Thsromon Johnson
Thsromon Johnson

Oh no, someone tells the truth and the illegals, liberals and rhinos get bent out of shape. Never saw that coming. Maybe we should stick to liars and thieves like Hillary and Obama.

ByteMe
ByteMe

I don't think what Trump is saying is so interesting.  I think how it affects the rest of the Republican field is the more interesting analysis here.  He's sucking the oxygen out of the campaigns of several of the lesser candidates.  They have to decide whether to match his bombast or risk disappearing into the ether.  Meanwhile, no matter how well he polls, there's always a "top" to a non-serious candidate's numbers (see Gingrich, Newt and Bachmann, Michelle).  So his top-end upside ends up temporarily taking away from the upside of another candidate who might be more palatable to the national audience and the clock is ticking for them.

Mandingo
Mandingo

He will most likely win the GOP primary in Georgia by a landslide. He is a Yale educated businessman. He knows the GED GOP base is too dumb to understand concepts so he has to speak on their level. Mexican = criminal, Trump = good. Vote GOP = saving America.

332-206
332-206

Can't play Trump's candidacy for yucks anymore, Kyle?

332-206
332-206

Most of that confusion resides on the right.

DontTaseMeBro
DontTaseMeBro

@Kyle_Wingfield @332-206


After Citizen's United, PACs, SuperPACs, and too many low information voters at the mercy of 30-second soundbites, our entire system is the joke. 

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

Sorry but his statements do represent Republicans


I dont think that is accurate. I know he doesn't represent Kyle and he is a Republican


He DOES however have a voice inside the Republican party. Some share his views. Its why he is getting the numbers he is. Not because Democrats wish it to be so. 


All that being said once the field narrows, or he embarsses himself in the coming weeks, his support will evaporate.


The phrase "flash in a pan" comes to mind. 



RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Trump is a charlatan, just another one in politics.  I think he has been a good addition in that maybe the other guys will realize how sick voters are of politicians saying one thing when they are running for office, and then doing just the opposite when elected.  


Perfect example, David Perdue, remember him, few do, he was going to change how Washington works, not going to support Mitch McConnell for majority leader.  The only thing we have heard from Sen Perdue since he was elected was that he voted for his buddy Mitch and continues to vote with the establishment.  Several of the new Congressman said they wouldn't vote for Boehner but once again they had a DC conversion.  


I think people are sick of lying politicians these days, tired of their political speech that they have proven not to honor, so they are probably more willing to listen to a new non politician voice.  At least Trump has not disappointed them yet, because he hasn't served in elected office, the other candidates have all disappointed them already.   Do you vote for the liar you know or someone fresh, who is probably a liar as well.  Politics is always the lesser of two evils.

Ralph-25
Ralph-25

Trump is the best thing to happen for the Clinton campaign so far.

straker
straker

"willing to voice the concerns that none of the other candidates will"


That's probably true of more people than you care to admit.


If so, then he might just have the last laugh.

BiCurious_Barack
BiCurious_Barack

Is Donald Trump really THE CLOSEST the Republicans can get to Ronald Reagan in 2015?


Reagan also shot from the hip and told it like it is, regardless of how viciously the liberal media called him "stupid" and a "blowhard."   




Where are you,   CHUCK  NORRIS ?        America needs you save us from Hillary & Barry.




#NorrisPaul2016



LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

The Trump candidacy is just something we have to endure until it spins itself apart.

Jefferson1776
Jefferson1776

He simply does not want to sit at the kids table on the Faux debates,  to get his points he goes for meat.

MANGLER
MANGLER

I read a conspiracy theory that he is actually a Democratic mole sent in to damage the GOP.  As silly as that sounds ... 

332-206
332-206

Workin' like a charm...

Likewise
Likewise

Sorry but his statements do represent Republicans.  This is the talk of the primaries.  After that, the candidate comes back to the middle in order to get elected.  But fails to do so.  And the party says that's why he lost - he went to the middle.  Great way to get elected if only takes the Confederate South to win. 

BiCurious_Barack
BiCurious_Barack


Liberals FEAR    non-liberals and free thinkers who tell it like it is on a national & world stage as Donald Trump does.




#RunFromTheTruth



Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@BiCurious_Barack Is this telling it like it is ?


"I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility…then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."


"I have a great relationship with the blacks."


"I think the only difference between me and the other candidates is that I'm more honest and my women are more beautiful." 


"You know, it really doesn`t matter what [the media] write as long as you`ve got a young and beautiful piece of ......"


"All of the women on 'The Apprentice' flirted with me -- consciously or unconsciously. That's to be expected." 


"My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well been documented, are various other parts of my body."


"The beauty of me is that I'm very rich."






332-206
332-206

That's above Bicurious' head...

Claver
Claver

@BiCurious_Barack Right now, it is the Republican establishment, not the liberals, that are afraid of Trump.

332-206
332-206

"Liberals FEAR non-liberals and free thinkers..."

Gee, it's your good luck the GOP has other candidates who don't share those fears...

JamesBullows
JamesBullows

@BiCurious_Barack And this guy is representative of a decent size chunk of the Republican base. It might not be enough to get Trump to win the primary, but it's enough to keep the entire Republican field pandering to those people that support him.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

"“The Republican Party will continue to lose presidential elections if it comes across as mean-spirited and unwelcoming toward people of color, Donald Trump tells Newsmax."


Well, he is just repeating what was said years ago in the aftermath of 2012 election loss for the GOP.  The GOP looked at the reasons they lost, and how to overcome those losses. 

One of those points is how the GOP comes across to minorities. 

Another of those points is how the GOP comes across to immigrants. 

Another of those points is how the GOP comes across to women.

Yet Another is the total number of candidates the GOP had, and recommended reducing that number.  


Nothing new there, it's been known for years.  Unfortunately, most of the GOP candidates chose to ignore the recommendations of just a few years ago by singing the same tunes.  A few are trying to change the tune, but the large field of candidates reinforces the echo chamber of the same rhetoric as 4 years ago.  

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@LogicalDude "Well, he is just repeating what was said years ago in the aftermath of 2012 election loss for the GOP."

Sorry, maybe the post wasn't clear: That is what he himself said right after the 2012 election. Now he is taking a completely different tack by talking about "killers" and "rapists" coming across the border from Mexico.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@Kyle_Wingfield @LogicalDude Thanks for the clarification.  From the context, I thought it was recent. 

Of course, his outrageous statements get headlines and attention, so it could have been that his logical assessment was said recently, but not covered because it's not click-worthy or ratings bait.