Bookman and Wingfield on … Bush and Clinton (video)

Bush vs. Clinton. Clinton vs. Bush. Is this destined to be next summer’s (political) blockbuster? Will there be even more sequels? IS THERE NO ESCAPE?

Jay and I tackle the dueling dynasties in this week’s video. Enjoy:



 

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FIGMO2
FIGMO2

I was gonna say something but can't remember what it was.

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J/K, Kyle.

I agree, wholeheartedly, with both you and jay.

Until the American voter wises up, the "entrenched advantaged" will maintain the upper hand.

New blood, new ideas can't hurt. Someone who enjoys the back and forth, unlike Obama, and someone who knows how to maneuver among the house reps with new ideas would be to American voter's advantage. 

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

-  Gets better and better every week, in terms of more natural dialogue exchange between between you two, as well as greater relaxation with the camera with both of you.


- I loved the circus music at the beginning as an intro as well as the visual images of the candidates, not just the two of you.


- And, not editing out Kyle's memory loss was a delightful touch!  Very secure with yourself, Kyle, to let that stay in, and so funny!  Jay was the gentlemen in not going for the jugular when Kyle forget what he was about to say.  (Don't worry, Kyle, I do that all the time!!  Of course, you are almost 40 years younger!)


- Well, it is obvious that both of you are males.  There IS new blood in this campaign, in that the first woman ever might become our national leader.  How great is that?!!!  That will be truly inspirational as well as transformative for our world!

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Oh, just one more suggestion which I hope will be helpful.  Your cue cards, for reading your dialogue are too far away from your eyes.  It is too obvious on close-ups that you are reading them.  Can you place them more directly in front of your eyes as you appear to look into the camera - or better yet, get relaxed enough with the show's format and with one another to simply have a word outline (maybe on your hands like Sarah Palin  ;-) ) which you can refer to as you have a free exchange with one another without cue cards, altogether.  Natural is best, even with faux pas.  That is what makes it fun for the audience and they will listen to your points with even more interest.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@MaryElizabethSings Thanks for the comments. We don't have any "cue cards." We do have notes we've each jotted down (on scraps of paper we're holding) to make sure we've hit the points we wanted to cover. But no one's holding anything off-camera for us to read.

MaryElizabethSings
MaryElizabethSings

@Kyle_Wingfield @MaryElizabethSings 


Look at Jay's eyes on close-up especially, Kyle.  It looks as if he is looking to the left.  Maybe it was that he should look more directly into the red light of the camera (if that's its color).  Saw a little bit of that with you on close up but not as much.  Glad to know that you two are just using notes not cue cards.  It really gets so much better every week with relaxation in dialogue between the two of you.  I truly think you both have good "chemistry" with one another on camera and that this show is going to be a winner for you both!  I'm pulling for you both!  ;-)

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@MaryElizabethSings "There IS new blood in this campaign, in that the first woman ever might become our national leader.  How great is that?!!!  That will be truly inspirational as well as transformative for our world!"

I had no idea you were so high on Carly Fiorina ...

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@MaryElizabethSings

New blood in the campaign?  Must be talking about the Hispanic candidates on the GOP side.  Nothing but old white folks on the Dem side...and calling America's Grandma "new" makes zero sense.  Real Americans have seen plenty of her and are ready for something better--like competence, honor, and truthfulness.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

Neither Jeb nor Hillary have a new idea, just polished up retreads.  


We do need someone with a new perspective on the problems of our country.  Say what you will about Trump and some of his outlandish ideas, but it was refreshing yesterday to hear him throw out for discussion something different from a nuanced, polished, tired old political nostrums.  With a Jeb/Hillary race we get more class warfare/war on women/divide us into groups from Hillary, and from Jeb, more muscular foreign policy and another tireless debate on how to better address poverty and education.  Neither will make a serious attempt to shrink government, reduce the deficit and debt, or get a handle on illegal immigration.


MarkVV
MarkVV

I think the “dynasty aspect” is much overrated. I do not believe that Jeb Bush is running because his brother and father were presidents, and Hillary is not running because Bill was President. The importance of the network of donors and supporters is real, however.

Mick11
Mick11

Jeb bush has no business running for president; he can't run on his brother's disastrous legacy, nor can he run away from it!  NO MORE BUSH!  Please. 

As for Hillary, she's pretty smart and capable, I like that in a president...

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@Mick11 Not smart enough to put two emails on one smart phone or realize that her homemade email system was subject to being easily hacked!  Not smart enough to know that running an organization that begged for money, from the same foreign governments she was negotiating with,  was going to appear to be a conflict of interest, while she was Sec or State.

Dusty2
Dusty2

Good heavens, is there even one conservative left at AJC? Doesn't sound like it.  No wonder Bookman is smiling


Americans are not going to vote for dynasties.  They are looking for honesty, integrity and experience. no matter who has it.  We tried the "new, fresh, and inexperienced" and we saw the results.  We don't make the same mistake twice.


Stop down grading Americans as robotic imbeciles.  Maybe the press can be classified as such  but not the rest of us citizens.  

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@Dusty2 I am a conservative who, like a lot of other conservatives, thinks GWB didn't govern as much of one. You're better with poetry than dime-store psychology.

Dusty2
Dusty2

@Kyle_Wingfield @Dusty2

For your information,Kyle, I majored in biology and worked in hematology. That isn't dime store psychology but neither is journalism.


You don't take honest observations lightly , do you?


Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@Dusty2 Your observation may be honest, but that doesn't make it accurate. "Conservative" is not a synonym for "Bush." It's closer to being an antonym ...

Dusty2
Dusty2

@Kyle_Wingfield @Dusty2 


Kyle, I could say that your observations  are no more accurate than mine.  We are both expressing OUR opinions and mine is my honest opinion.  It is not just for the Bush family, but for those who have honesty, experience and intelligence. 


Right now the Bush family far exceeds  in those categories.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@Dusty2 And you are welcome to air your opinions. I just think it's absurd for you to question whether I am -- or anyone else is -- a conservative just because my opinion about Jeb Bush doesn't jibe with your take on him. I promise not to question your broader views if you don't like a different candidate.

Unless it's Trump. Then all bets are off :-)

Dusty2
Dusty2

@Kyle_Wingfield @Dusty2 


Sorry, Kyle, but it wasn't just your views on Jeb.  It was your demand for something new, different and whatever as you were "debating".   Real conservatives also want something "new & different" but they don't throw out the baby with the bath water. 


I'll go with your new & different as long as it doesn't resemble the last "new and different" that is upon us now..  

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@Dusty2 What "demand"? I didn't demand anything. I observed that a fresh face was welcomed in 2008 -- and I don't think anyone can argue the contrary, given how the elections (primary and general) turned out -- and I predicted the same will be true next year.

Don't worry, I didn't vote for Obama in '08 or '12. But a majority of people did.

Dusty2
Dusty2

@Kyle_Wingfield @Dusty2 


Yes, a majority of Americans did vote for Obama, the new and different. Now they know their mistake. 


I hope we don't have to go through THAT again.  .  

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Dusty2

Americans might not vote for dynasties, but Democrats will.  Their only other choices are a crazy socialist and an airhead who worked such magic in Baltimore as mayor.

Dusty2
Dusty2

@Kyle_Wingfield @Dusty2 


I don't think you have decided what you are, Kyle.  Tryng to hit the middle road with an open mind  is hard.  But you keep trying.   That is honest but you are "supposed" to be conservative.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@Dusty2 If you judge someone's political philosophy by whether they happen to agree with you about a specific candidate or family of candidates, you're doing it wrong.

straker
straker

Kyle, they are NOT dynasties.


Jeb and Hillary have as much right to run as the other candidates and it will take more than a famous last name to get them elected.