Scott Walker touts his winning record, reform agenda in visit to Atlanta

The Peach State parade of presidential candidates and near-candidates continued Monday, with Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker hitting Atlanta for a couple of private meetings. Walker, who has said he’ll announce his intentions after his state budget process wraps up later this month, told me in an interview that he hears much the same refrain from Georgia voters as he does from folks in states more accustomed to early primary attention.

“The common denominator from Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and here today, and elsewhere,” Walker said, is that “people come out and they know what we did to take on the big-government special interests a few years ago. They like that we didn’t just fight but we won those battles — not just then, but we’ve consistently won since.”

Scott Walker

Those battles, notably limiting collective-bargaining rights for some public workers and requiring them to pay for a larger share of their benefits, drew national attention in 2011, Walker’s first year in office. Teachers unions and their allies filled the capitol in Madison, which in turn was abandoned by some Democratic lawmakers who skipped town to deny a legislative quorum and keep the measures at bay. That ploy eventually failed, as did Democrats’ related attempt to recall him from office in 2012 … and then their bid to deny him re-election last year. Walker indicated that track record of winning, both in elections and once in office, sets him apart from others in the GOP’s still-growing 2016 field.

“There’s a lot of good Republicans in Washington,” he said, referring specifically to the quartet of senators running for president: Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio. “All good fighters, fighting the good fight on a variety of issues. But they haven’t won anything, they haven’t gotten anything accomplished.

“There’s another group of candidates, or would-be candidates,” he continued, “who are governors or former governors, who have been good winners, who have won elections, re-elections, but they haven’t taken on any really big fights. I think what makes us unique, if we get in, is we’ve done both.”

In what ways, I asked, does Walker think those fights in Wisconsin would have prepared him for what he’d face in Washington if elected?

“You’ve got to act quickly,” he began. “You’ve got to use your honeymoon period. You’ve got to be bold and start working in the campaign and then really work in between the election date and the time that the legislative session starts … and put an agenda out there. To me, I believe in full-scale reforms, so (that means) a major transfer of power and money from the federal government to the states.

“So you push the obvious things, what’s in the House budget like (more state control over funding for) Medicaid, but I’d go beyond Medicaid and other social services. Transportation infrastructure funding. Environmental protection — all 50 states have an equivalent, why do we have all these duties … overwhelmingly at the EPA, why not push them back to the states? Workforce investment dollars. Even education, I think we’d be better-served if, instead of sending a dollar to Washington, we sent that dollar to our states and kept it in our schools. Those are really big, bold reforms that I think you could push early on and have, as we did with our reforms, it wasn’t a short-term fix, it was a long-term, structural reform. I think the same thing would be true there.”

A reform of work-force investment programs is one idea he said he pursued as governor with state money, instead of waiting for the federal government to act.

“I heard so many employers, particularly in manufacturing, say, you know, I’ve got five (open) welding positions, but if I could fill these, I’d have 10 more. Or I’d hear the same with coding and IT, or health care professionals, physicians assistants, nursing assistants, other positions like that. So what we did, we gave money to all 16 of our technical colleges … but we said we’re going to give you the money, not based on by dividing it by 16, or by students. We’re going to divide it by how you score on your application. So we said, here’s a pot of money. You show us how effective you are at identifying where there’s a wait list in high-demand areas, and how it meets the needs of employers within that region.”

The result, he said, was a focus on high-demand jobs such as diesel mechanics, welders and dental technicians: “We said, you show us where it meets a need out there, because we want to pay for performance. We want to know where we invest, this money’s going to go to put people on a career path where there’s actually a job waiting for them.”

Whether Walker has a job waiting for him in the White House remains to be seen. Later this week, I’ll post some more of his thoughts about how a Republican can win in 2016.

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Dusty2
Dusty2

Hey, Scott Walker does sound GOOD! I am almost torn between that fine sound man of integrity & experience, Jeb Bush and Mr. Walker. 


Walker even looks like a young Ab Lincoln!   If he can make a speech like the Gettysburg Address he might get elected. 


And..... States Rights!   Ah so!  That is music to my ears.  I am beginning to like this tune very much. 

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

Membership in public-sector unions has taken a serious hit in Wisconsin, and no matter how hard the union hierarchy tries, former members aren't lookin' to rejoin.

Unions have even lowered the mandatory membership dues to no avail.

That oughta tell our liberals something. 

stogiefogey
stogiefogey

Scott Walker would make a great GOP candidate. Unfortunately he lacks the name recognition of some of the marquee contenders who are more familiar to your average low information voter.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

Leftists think "reform" is forcing their beliefs on others and spending more of other people's money.  Walker knows what real reform is and has gotten it done, from busting anti-American government employee unions to cutting taxes to getting rid of ineffective and economy-stunting regulations.

TicTacs
TicTacs

The cat is a loser.... Bush is your man

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Jefferson1776

Walker is far superior to the entire Democrat slate--the tired old grandma, the crazy uncle, and the airhead from Baltimore.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@IReportYouWhine#1 You expect the proggies to give up their well rehearsed willfully uninformed wishful analysis just because you trot out a few facts.

straker
straker

Kyle:


Here's a tip.


Limiting collective-bargaining rights for workers is NOT taking on "the big-government special interests".


Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@straker You don't think a public-worker union is a big-government special interest? FDR did.

Chez Williams
Chez Williams

Scott Walker is not a good candidate. People in earnest need to review how well Wisconsin is doing... They are not doing very well economically. The fact that he busted the union is not a plus but a minus in my book. He went against WORKING CLASS people. This man is a scam and a puppet to the "highest' bidder. Buyer's beware!

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

"No, better to keep those kinds of things federally run and funded. "

Yes, because the Feds are so good at what they do, like the TSA stops at least 5% of the bombs going through the scanners and pat downs.  The IRS targets groups they do not like, the USDA makes folks drain their catfish ponds, the FDA will not approve life saving drugs for years.  Federal Agencies can make money disappear right before your eyes,  credit cards to pay for strippers, gambling loses, personal items, business meetings in Las Vegas, paying folks to watch porn, etc.


No way states and local governments could pull off that kind of performance, there is too much accountability when you work that close to the folks back home.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@LogicalDude @RafeHollister Absolutely right logical.


If you don't think a red state like Georgia would roll back every single environmental regulation if they could you are kidding yourself.


Sure it would be great for about 10 years. The economy would do well because the polluters would all move here.


But pretty soon people would start getting sick. One day they would make a movie about it


Chattahoochee Burning.  

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

@RafeHollister "there is too much accountability when you work that close to the folks back home."


HAHAHAHA!!!   Some states, sure. Other states?  Oh goodness no. 


And people will be people no matter if they work for a state or a federal government agency.  Know what happened to a huge amount of state property that was supposed to support Georgia's water needs?  People who worked for the state sold it.   These kinds of stories are not limited to the federal government. 

JKToole
JKToole

This man is so obviously a charlatan. How is his dishonesty so difficult for so many to see? Talk about a "flip-flopper" Why are folks so eager to "buy a car" from this guy? Take one issue, the EPA. It was created by the Nixon Administration in 1972. Doesn't he remember what the Great Lakes looked like then, when regulation of pollution was 'controlled' by the states? There will always be Louisianas and South Carolinas (and to an extent Georgias) where regulation can be overlooked for a price. Look at the Savannah River Plant and the PSC right now. We're paying for it in advance and the cost overruns just keep coming. The PSC just kicks the bill back down to the middle class and the company building the damn thing keeps skating. After it's built, (and you and I paid for it) do you think energy bills are going to decrease?

Though I could never support a hawk like Graham or a nut like Santorum, I believe they are honest. They believe in what they say.

Scott Walker's speech is for sale. He is a political billboard. Is the GOP so desperate for a presidential win they'll do anything for it? What does that say?

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@JKToole Scott Walker's speech is for sale.


Hillary's has to be bought through the Clinton Foundation, big difference huh?

JKToole
JKToole

@RafeHollister Funny. I didn't see mention of Hillary Clinton in the column or my post, Barn.

Booger James
Booger James

Walker / Rubio will be the 2016 GOP ticket and I hope for the sake of America they win. Otherwise, we are doomed to a western Europe style socialist central government.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Booger James The leftists are pushing for a style of government far to the east of the style of Western Europe.  Their dream is pure communism, including exemptions for their elites from the chaos and poverty it leads to.

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@LilBarryBailout @Booger James

The leftists are pushing for a style of government far to the east of the style of Western Europe.  Their dream is pure communism, including exemptions for their elites from the chaos and poverty it leads to.

Remember, folks: I'm the "hyperbole" guy.

LilBarryBailout
LilBarryBailout

@Visual_Cortex @LilBarryBailout @Booger James

"Free" health care, college, housing, food.  Wages set by government bureaucrats.  An end to private property.  An end to religious freedom.  An end to the right to keep and bear arms.

That's what today's leftists want.

And it is communism.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@LilBarryBailout @Visual_Cortex @Booger James "Free" health care, college, housing, food.  Wages set by government bureaucrats.  An end to private property.  An end to religious freedom.  An end to the right to keep and bear arms.


That is right


You are the hyperbole guy.

lvg
lvg

@LilBarryBailout @Visual_Cortex @Booger James Yeh especially that communist named Ronald Reagan who gave everyone the right to free ER treatment and the poor  free telephones.


Which party did he belong to? Anybody know???

PCis4lemmings
PCis4lemmings

Walker is a strong candidate.  Unlike Obama, he has experience, he has a plan and he can execute and not just give lip service.  Hillary will be no savior.  Remember Bill Clinton's awesome affordable housing act that forced lenders to give home loans to people who couldn't afford them?  How'd that work out for the African American community? It crashed the economy for everyone and once again, hurt blacks the most.   Walker will also respect the Constitution.  Liberals defend the democratic lawlessness now.  Let's hear what they say WHEN a republican is back in the WH at some point and they wave their hand and declare laws that negatively impact the democratic base.  I suspect those dismissive of the importance of rule of law and constitutional government will suddenly think it's not so righteous.  The fact is, the Democratic party exists only by corruption of the liberal media and people feeding off the working people (blue and white collar).  Blacks in this country are worse off than ever.  Obama had a democratic house and senate for a long time.  He could do anything he wanted for the poor blacks in this country without anything or anyone being able to stop him.  He did nothing.  When the masses got angry, he blamed the NEWLY elected republican house majority even though he didn't present them with any serious legislation that would help the black community.  Still... he gets hero worship from the very people he double crossed and is throwing away.  I wonder if they realize what will happen to their job prospects, educational prospects, and free monies from the government when all the newly legalized illegals hit the job market?  Do they understand how much more dire their circumstances will be?  Obama put illegals over and above black citizens of this country. DISGUSTING.   Anyone who argues otherwise is being intentionally misleading or too hopelessly blind to be saved anyway.  If a genie appeared and gave me one wish, my wish would be that blacks in America would no longer be under the spell of the liberal machine that is hurting them most and stop seeing the ones that desperately want them to prosper  and reach their potential as the enemy.  That would change this country.  It would change the world. 

JKToole
JKToole

@PCis4lemmings From your post, I gather you think that blacks are the biggest problem in this country? When actually, face of "welfare" in this nation is overwhelmingly white and increasingly elderly. I haven't checked but supposedly the median age of Fox News viewers is 68. How many of those people (who decry the Affordable care and Patient Protection Act) receive Medicare benefits: a single payer, social, medical program provided by the federal government to the elderly and disabled since 1966?

This post sounds like it was pulled straight from Rush Limbaugh - a wealthy entertainer and disk jockey - whose only allegiance is to the $$$'s that he serves.

RafeHollister
RafeHollister

@HeadleyLamar @PCis4lemmings This is the old "Blacks" need me to think and speak for them, because I am an EDUCATED progressive argument.  Headley looking out for the folks, because he cares.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@PCis4lemmings  If a genie appeared and gave me one wish, my wish would be that blacks in America would no longer be under the spell of the liberal machine that is hurting them most and stop seeing the ones that desperately want them to prosper  and reach their potential as the enemy. 


This is the old "Blacks are stupid and their vote is easily bought because Democrats give them free stuff" argument that has worked so well in the past.

n8diggidy
n8diggidy

I will definitely like to hear more form Scott Walker. He speaks intelligently without saying ummm every fifth word, like our current President does. 

cw1960
cw1960

Didn't he really mean "transfer of power and money from the middle class to certain corporations and billionaires"?  It seems he's done that very well, so far.  Maybe he can put Brownback on the ticket as VP since they both have such great experience destroying a state.

LogicalDude
LogicalDude

"transfer of power and money from the federal government to the states.. . . why do we have all these duties … overwhelmingly at the EPA, why not push them back to the states?"


So, basically, a bunch of red states will get dirtier as they neglect to enforce "job killing" regulations or choose to defund it during financially difficult years. The result will be making their people sicker.  Dirty companies would flock to these states and pollute pollute pollute (which is why we have these environmental protections in the first place.)  No, better to keep those kinds of things federally run and funded. 


Oh, these governors would cut even more of these regulations that help workers, help people, help civilization because they can.  It's revealing that Walker calls out the EPA on this rather than FDA or others agencies.


There are some common sense ways to make those departments more efficient, but pushing these to the states will result in even greater disparity between richer and poorer states. 


But overall, one of the better Republican candidates.

MHSmith
MHSmith

This guy probably has a few folks in his corner already but he is going to have to give answers on some of the things he said in this blog article: Some of us don't buy into blank statements on issues and his "hit'em hard hit'em early" is not anything new , fresh, or what is needed for the long term... not to mention Obama ran this same "blitz scream game plan", much of which is going by the way side in future GOP years.


All he really has to show is standing against the unions. Everything else other governors can say of themselves and it would be a true statement.


I'll wait and see if Walker has anything more to offer: So far, other than the standard GOP fare of  standing against unions, he is lacking. 


Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@MHSmith All he really has to show is standing against the unions.


Very true. His anti labor stance and siding against the American worker is what has made him a darling of the right


A coincidence he is the Koch brothers preferred choice ?


Hardly. 

MHSmith
MHSmith

@HeadleyLamar @MHSmith


The unions have sided against the American workers brucie. They back and support illegal immigration and the hiring of unauthorized labor to the DETRIMENT of U.S. workers.


Unions are Political Action Committees for the Democrat Party yours and their preferred choice.


FDR got one thing right for sure... civil service workers should not be allowed to unionize.


I hope the unions continue to decline and more and more state and local governments refuse to cave into their demands or sign anymore labor contracts. 


Want pension give 401Ks' no matching funds, Obamacare like everyone else and wage hike determined by the individual's merit. 


While Obama is at it see if he will send these U.S. labor unions to China as part of his Free Trade deal!


Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

The only thing Walker has going for him is he has the Koch brothers solidly behind him.


They know a good front man when they see one.


But his record as Governor in Wisconsin is awful. Job growth there has lagged well behind the rest of the nation


At the close of 2010, a year and a half after the recession officially ended, Wisconsin could claim one of the better economic recoveries in the country. Employment had grown at a faster clip than in most states, and the value of Wisconsin's publicly traded companies was up almost 40 percent. Tax revenue, a sign of economic health, had risen more than 50 percent.


Then Scott Walker became governor. Over the four years that followed, Wisconsin's economic performance ranked 35th in the country, according to the Bloomberg Economic Evaluation of States, which tracks the change in a series of economic indicators. The state has lagged Michigan (3rd place), Illinois (14th), Iowa (18th) and Minnesota (19th).


He has been a disaster for Wisconsin. 


http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-02-24/scott-walker-s-lagging-indicators

Caius
Caius

At this point in the primary race I believe Walker is one of a few who will have to be reckoned with by the other "baker's dozen plus". With this caveat: he was elected both times in a non presidential years.  Obama carried Wisconsin in both years which were high turnout years.  And the recall election was not on the presidential ballot.

Foundstar
Foundstar

Walker is an absolute phony. Every aspect of him is geared to lie about everything he says he has done and accomplished. His State is underwater  fiscally, the voters hate him and yet he touts his achievements as winning strategy. This is the kind of politician that will 'buy' his way into any office while deceit, innuendo, lies and money are his calling cards. Beware of this charlatan..He will destroy all he touches.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@PCis4lemmings @Foundstar after the Great Recession that both states faced some pretty daunting problems: high unemployment, huge deficits, and a sluggish economy. At its most dire, Wisconsin’s unemployment rate was 9.2% and the state was facing a $3.6 billion budget deficit. At the same time, Minnesota was dealing with 8.3% unemployment and a $2.6 billion deficit.


To address the state’s budget problems, Walker and the Republican legislature made huge cuts to public education, shifted healthcare and pension costs to state employees, eliminated tax credits for low-wage workers, and cut healthcare. Walker then went on a tax cutting spree, significantly reducing taxes for the wealthy, arguing that it would stimulate the state economy.


The results have been lackluster at best. Wisconsin job growth has ranked at or near the bottom of the Midwest, personal income growth has been last in the Midwest and 44th nationally, and the budget is in shambles.


Walker likes to say that the state has a budget surplus, but to make such a claim requires some really irresponsible accounting. It’s the equivalent of showing off $100 in your wallet, claiming you’re flush with cash, but failing to mention the $2000 credit card bill you know is coming at the end of the month. 


http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/purple-wisconsin/280089862.html


A pretty good rundown of how bad Walker has been for the state. 


Meanwhile next door  Minnesota ( under Dem leadership which RAISED taxes on people making over 250,000) is doing just fine. 


Only Brownback in Kansas, where the GOP went all in, is faring worse. 

PCis4lemmings
PCis4lemmings

@Foundstar  I think you should back your inflammatory statements up with fact.  Please tell us how is state is under water and failing.  I have a home in his state.  I'm anxious to hear you back up your accusations..

TicTacs
TicTacs

A yankee hot head with no compassion for working people, this GOP is a strange unique creature.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

...I believe in full-scale reforms, so (that means) a major transfer of power and money from the federal government to the states.

Dems are always celebrating diversity except when it comes to ideas on how to implement policy.

Governor Walker's to be commended for the courage he portrayed in Wisconsin. Wisconsin voters are to be commended for facing reality. 

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

instead of sending a dollar to Washington, we sent that dollar to our states and kept it in our schools. Those are really big, bold reforms that I think you could push early on

Because cutting federal taxes and turning the USA into a neo-Confederacy is so very "big" and "bold".


Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@HeadleyLamar Walker said it's more about how the money can be used most effectively. He, like a lot of us, thinks these things are done better by people closer to the problem.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield I thought we were talking about Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security Disability. I fail to see where I mentioned the Affordable Care and Patient Protection Act. Please, let's stay on subject here.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield Medicare, Medicaid and disability fraud overwhelmingly occurs at the local, not national level. How does this idea hold salt? The people closer to the problem are the problem. 

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield Claims examiners at the state disability determination agency already decide whether you are medically eligible for Social Security disability or SSI. To determine whether you are disabled, and thus qualify for Social Security disability benefits the Social Security Administration will send your claim to a state agency that's often called Disability Determination Services. The examiner orders medical records from all the treatment sources indicated by the applicant on their application. Once those medical records begin to arrive, the examiner decides whether or not a person will qualify for disability.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield Not true. Although Medicaid is a joint federal and state program the states operate the program on a day-to-day basis, including taking applications and making determinations of eligibility.  That means you must contact a local office in your state to apply for Medicaid. The state may also require a face-to-face interview. If you own a home, the state may ask you to document the current fair market value of the home and any loans for the home, such as mortgages or equity loans. All states have local Medicaid eligibility offices where you file applications. Many states also provide applications at different locations in your community, including Aging and Disability Resource Centers. You can also apply by phone by calling your local Medicaid office. In most states, you can also apply online, or find an application online that you can complete and mail to the local office. You contact your State Medical Assistance Office to find out where and how you can apply for Medicaid benefits.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole Most Medicaid fraud is committed by doctors, not by patients. At least, if you measure by dollars involved.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole But if we're going to get into fraud by patients, let's keep in mind Obamacare makes this easier with its "presumed eligibility" provision.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield This no doubt bolsters my claim that most fraud is committed locally? By local doctors?

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield The Presumptive Eligibility provision you speak of in the Affordable Care and Patient Protection Act permits local hospitals to make presumptive eligibility determinations for all Medicaid eligible populations. Individuals must prove subsidy eligibility through 1040 returns, W-2's, W-4's and believe it or not W-9 forms.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole You're missing the point: Where are decisions made about these programs (and others) and how they are to be structured? Or which strings come attached to funds? And so on.

Those decisions, in the programs in question, are made at the federal level and merely implemented at the local or state levels. Of course fraud is committed by "local" doctors and "local" hospitals; there's no other kind. But who makes the rules those doctors and hospitals follow? That's what is at issue here. Your "who actually commits the fraud" line is what's taking us off subject.

Hedley_Lammar
Hedley_Lammar

@Kyle_Wingfield @JKToole Of course fraud is committed by "local" doctors and "local" hospitals; there's no other kind. But who makes the rules those doctors and hospitals follow?


Do you really think that would change with the good ole boy network in charge? 

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield I'm not missing anything. You promote the idea that these programs could be better administered by people "closer to the problem". They already are and are given more leeway than you acknowledge (see Presumptive Eligibility provision you mention in the ACPPA). I simply don't agree. If you say do away with the programs I've mentioned altogether than that is a wholly different argument.

Do you honestly think that, say, Ralph Hudgens, has the knowledge, faculties and ability to administer said programs? Be honest. Have you ever met or spoken to him? He is a very charming fellow. He used to be an insurance salesman.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole "They already are and are given more leeway than you acknowledge (see Presumptive Eligibility provision you mention in the ACPPA)."

That quote, right there, encapsulates the way you are trying to have it both ways. You say the locals have "leeway" and then cite a federal mandate they are simply trying to follow. Anyway leeway they have is within the bounds set by the feds. To call this some kind of locally governed program is disingenuous.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole "Medicare, Medicaid and disability fraud overwhelmingly occurs at the local, not national level."

What are you talking about?

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield Nothing disingenuous here -except your failure to answer any question regarding state implementation of social programs. At this point you're just being churlish - like many of your readers here - cherry picking sentences in order to build your  straw man so you can feign "victory". How tiresome.

Two can play this game: you wrote "if we're going to get into fraud by patients, let's keep in mind Obamacare makes this easier with its "presumed eligibility" provision." I pointed out to you that this provision doesn't attend to individuals, but hospitals. Combined with your apparent lack of knowledge regarding subjects you bemoan incessantly (the ACPPA and SSDI determination and Medicaid day-to-day operations - both mentioned earlier in the thread, and subsequently ignored by you) is alarming. Perhaps you have a future career in television or radio commentary?

;-)

I'm sure it pays more.

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@JKToole Nothing churlish here, just not going for your misdirection. Let's review:

1. I said Walker was talking about effectiveness of money spent.

2. You started talking about fraud -- an element of effectiveness, but only one and arguably a relatively small one.

3. You further confused the issue by talking about local implementation, without acknowledging the original point was about who makes the decisions that set the broad parameters for implementation.

4. I pointed that out, as well as the fact that one major form of abuse, if not fraud, of Medicaid comes from a federal law.

5. You returned to confusing the issue by talking about local hospitals and doctors, when the point is about who sets the rules for those hospitals and doctors.

You have yet to respond to any actual point on this topic. Unless you have something substantive to add, rather than changing the the subject once again to my career options, I think we're done here.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield In closing and in reference to my "having it both ways": in order to participate in Medicaid, federal law requires states to cover certain population groups (mandatory eligibility groups) and gives them the flexibility to cover other population groups (optional eligibility groups). States set individual eligibility criteria within federal minimum standards. States can apply to CMS for a waiver of federal law to expand health coverage beyond these groups.

JKToole
JKToole

@Kyle_Wingfield It appears we're reading two different threads. As I read it, you've added nothing substantive and focused on steering the conversation from my initial statement - to the affordable care act where you incorrectly referred to 'fraud by patients' mentioning the 'presumed eligibility' provision which applies only to hospitals not individuals. You completely sidestepped the question of Georgia's ability to implement or make "the decisions that set the broad parameters for implementation" in the aforementioned social programs.

Duly noted that you're of the opinion that welfare fraud is a 'relatively small' problem. I'll hold you to that in the future.

I made a joke regarding your career options - in closing. In the future you'll be refraining from any humorous references here? I'm sorry you were confused.