The one thing that wasn’t said …

We’re one week into the new commenting policy, and I know some of you have chafed at the fact I haven’t allowed comments to go (too) far off-topic. Y’all have been pretty good about things so far, including those few hours Thursday I let go of the reins, so I’m going to try something I’d hoped we’d be able to do: an open comment thread for this Friday.

Even with more frequent posts, I won’t cover every topic under the sun. I know it doesn’t make up for not being able to comment on breaking events as they happen, but hopefully it goes some way toward making up for that.

Now for the caveat: While I won’t be moderating the thread in real time, I will be checking up on it to make sure no one’s reverting to old habits of name-calling, etc. Anyone who violates that not only will have those comments removed, but will be less apt to have future comments approved on other threads.

But with all that said, here is your inaugural Friday Open Thread … take it away!

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Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

OK, I think this one has gone on long enough.

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

 As physicist Gordon Fulks of the Cascade Policy Institute puts it: “CO2 is said to be responsible for global warming that is not occurring, for accelerated sea-level rise that is not occurring, for net glacial and sea-ice melt that is not occurring . . . and for increasing extreme weather that is not occurring.” He points out that there has been no net new global-warming increase since 1997 even though the human contribution to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has risen by 25 percent since then. This throws into doubt all the climate models that have been predicting massive climate dislocation.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388535/crumbling-climate-change-consensus-john-fund


Actually, it proves that the skeptics have always been correct.

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

Finally, the poll found a great deal of support for a conservative alternative to Obamacare — and for repealing Obamacare if such an alternative is on the table.  It asked whether likely voters support or oppose repealing Obamacare “and replacing it with a system in which patients and their doctors, not government bureaucrats, are in control of their choices.”  By the tally of 68 to 27 percent, respondents said they’d support repealing Obamacare and replacing in that vein.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/voter-intensity-strongly-against-obamacare_805370.html


I'll never be able to understand why 27% want to turn their most important life decisions over to the mindless government.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@IReportYouWhine 

Important life decisions have not been turned over to government. 

If you think you  are up to prove me wrong have at it. But first do you have an ACA policy, if not, that tells me right off the bat you don't know what you are talking about, you're talking on second hand knowledge . 

Now,Go for it andy. 


Oh and the link to the so-called alternative healthcare does not work. 

But I'll tell you none of these GOP plans are acceptable and if people think they don't like Obamacare just wait till they get stuck with this Republican garbage. 

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

Suspicions Run Deep in Iraq That C.I.A. and the Islamic State Are United

I'm not sure it's just the "CIA," but other than that, suspicions run pretty deep here too.

MHSmith
MHSmith

I love it. On the sidebar listing other stories "High health insurance deductibles cause pain".

David Perdue was for a federal healthcare solution, before he was against it 

- or before he was running for Senator?


Wonder why he once supported a federalize health care solution?

I'd tell Mr Perdue this, the maternity mandate excuse you've used for your flip-flop is a straw-man.  


Why are businesses opting for these higher deductible plans?


Possibly company healthcare insurance is too a big burden on businesses? 

Recon ol corporate Perdue seen that by eliminating company healthcare insurance and leaving it up to the federal solution to solve, he could improve his corporate bottom line and bonus check?

You may like your company sponsored healthcare insurance but read what the tea leaves are saying on the longevity of company sponsored healthcare insurance :

"N-F-L" - The Jerry Glanville definition.

MHSmith
MHSmith

I’m going to continue to push for a Federal Internet Access Tax to “entirely fund all subsidies” for basic health care and healthcare insurance modeled after the Swiss compulsory basic healthcare system and to pay off the national debt.

FIGMO2
FIGMO2

I wonder if MarkVV has considered what it was like for those of us who were forced to navigate through the personal and never-ending conflicts. The stalking?

If it makes him feel any better, I deleted the post wherein I called Debbie Wasserman Schultz an offensive name. A few extra keystrokes and I could have said her Slinky's kinked? She's as smart as bait? She's one fruit loop shy of a full bowl? 

MHSmith
MHSmith

@FIGMO2 

Even the Democrats are fed-up with Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

MarkV has his opinions and we have "our"opinions of MarkV. 

MarkVV
MarkVV

@FIGMO2 

I wonder if FIGMO2 even considered who initiated those “personal and never ending conflicts?” The fact that they were initiated by insults, which were supposed to be prohibited? In any case, it is typical that FIGMO2 again turns to an expression of a personal matter instead to the subject of my post.

MHSmith
MHSmith

Republicans have no answers on solving the issues they continuously bemoan and the Democrats don't want solutions they are too busy creating and ignoring issue problems.

The rest of us know you have to live within your means, balance your books and pay off your debt or your debt will eventually ruin you financially, if it is not paid off.   

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

 Emanuel is a notorious proponent of medical rationing, and has long advocated denying care to the elderly. In fact, just prior to his 2009 appointment to President Obama’s Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research, he co-authored an article in the Lancet which promotes allocation of health care resources according to the age of the patient. In its introduction, he and his co-authors recommend a rationing system that would prioritize “people who have not yet lived a complete life” yet go on to claim, “Unlike allocation by sex or race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination.”


Not a death panel?

MHSmith
MHSmith

@IReportYouWhine 

Private sector insurance companies have been functioning "notoriously" as death panels for many years before the  ACA passed into law. In fact the ACA mandates on  these insurance companies has stop  insurance companies from serving as death panels by dropping or canceling coverage when someone becomes too sick in these insurance companies view. 


IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

I like the price of the new blog.


Honestly, I feel sorry for Kyle and what he must have to put up with from the entitlement crowd.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@IReportYouWhine The entitlement crowd feel sorry that Kyle's tolerates you as well.


Funny thing about "the entitlements", they are actually purchases we paid for with a premium tax over many years.

Even the majority of Tea Party members will let you know right fast like and none too politely don't touch my SS check or my Medicare I've paid for it, they are mine! 




MHSmith
MHSmith

I find nothing wrong with the new format or Kyle's new policies. I hope he continues with this format and his policies. For those who feel otherwise your absence is your best protest.  

MarkVV
MarkVV


After the one week of the new blog format and the new commenting policy, it is perhaps time for some evaluation, and I submit that both are dismal failures, mainly for the same reason – they stifle a real discussion for too many people. This may be irrelevant to those who just want to vent their frustration with something without expecting a response, but it is incompatible with a vigorous debate of topics of great interest.


It is rather startling that this true perhaps for the new blog format even more than for the new commenting policy, because one would expect something better from the AJC IT people. First, the new format hugely wastes space; this may seem unimportant, because space is “cheap,” but in reality it has serious effect on the discussion.If one has to scroll back several pages back to find a response to even a relatively recent comment, or to find one to respond to, it discourages a discussion. This has been made even worse by the elimination of the date/time stamps and by the well-intentioned but actually detrimental introduction of the “reply feature.” Another well intentioned feature has turned out to be also hurtful - the ability to access sites like you tube directly. For the sake of saving a few people a few keystrokes one gets a huge waste of space, especially when some people mistaking a political blog for a place to exchange their musical selections.


Unlike in the case of the new blog format, at least there was a real reason for the new commenting policy, but it was done with astonishingly poor choices, at least if a real discussion is considered one of the goals of the blog. It should have been obvious that a pre-publication censorship by the moderator cannot be sustained and still allow a vigorous debate. It was fine a few days while Kyle was able to be in attendance more or less continuously, but soon the stifling effect became apparent in the evenings, not to mention weekends. The open comment thread this weekend already has shown reappearance of prohibited statements, and it is doubtful Kyle will be able to do anything about them. I believe that Kyle’s argument against post-publication penalties is groundless – it is hard to believe that many posters would keep re-inventing themselves just to be able to continue name calling and personal insults.


Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

@MarkVV As I said before, you can believe what you want, but I know the truth.


Oh, and I consider the new policy to be a roaring success, so it isn't going away anytime soon.

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

"We boomers are going fast..."

As long as most of 'em are loonie libs, the country is better off.

I try to look at positives. It's one of my charms.

gotalife
gotalife

Your party are incompetent clowns. The sooner they disband the better for our country.

MHSmith
MHSmith

Of course the hotheads can't see the Atlanta construction market has a SKILLED labor shortage presently which this time around the native population because of retired craftsmen will not be able to fill the shortage. 


We boomers are going fast and leaving the workforce even faster. 

MHSmith
MHSmith

It is amazing how people really don't think beyond their rage. Without a immigrant population this country will not last much longer. Our native population is aging, like most of the industrialized world. Which means loss of a workforce, a tax base, a source to supply military troops etc. 

 

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

"Well GOP are you going to deport 11 million people?"

Well, unfortunately there are more loonie libs than that -- check O'Bozo votes in '12.

But it's a start.

MHSmith
MHSmith

Well GOP are you going to deport 11 million people?


Call out the troops then, load'em up. 

It is not going to last very long before the Republicans will rue that day. 

Infraredguy
Infraredguy

Michelle " I defer to President Obama " Nunn's handlers have decided that she needs to say that she agrees with some Republican Senators on the issue of amnesty without clearing it first with Harry Reid, that will change quickly if she is elected.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Infraredguy 

Do you actually believe the Republicans are going to deport 11 million plus people, when the corporations they represent  want a cheap labor supply? 

Ask yourself why did the Bush  immigration reform fail, which granted amnesty by default?

The GOP doesn't fool me anymore. 



MHSmith
MHSmith

Oh and andy, I'm glad Harry Reid didn't pass the house bill on the Internet Access Tax. I hope they make it a federal tax and use it for the purposes I've advocated. 

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

Bush tried. Barney Frank said no way 'cause so many deadbeats were Dem voters.

Fact.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth Bush did nothing to until it was too late. Frank is all but immaterial to what I have cited as cause.

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

"When the banking and loan "impediments" were remove making the lair loans of the '90s possible a pseudo housing boom took place."

Slick Willie's fault!

Is he a Dem?

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth 

More like, Allen "the Laissez Faire Libertarian" Greenspan, Robert Ruben and Larry Summer.


We trusted the banks and we were wrong. 


That's what happens you Laissez Faire Libertarians like Allan Greenspan remove those "IMPEDIMENTS"

MHSmith
MHSmith

When the banking and loan "impediments" were remove making the lair loans of the '90s possible a pseudo housing boom took place. Wall Street repackaged these garbage loans as security grade investments and the rating houses gave them security grade investment status. Until one day some one said whoa something is wrong here this stuff is junk. 

Hello economic collapse.   


Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

O'Bozo's obsession with over-regulation and his war on fossil fuel resulted in the the slowest post-recession recovery since Fred last banged Wilma.

'Tis a testament to the strength of the American economic system any growth occurred at all given Bammie policies.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth Funny how oil production under Obama has been at a all time high and for the first time in years the U.S. has been exporting oil. Tis testament that the Obama administration can't stop oil production n on private land.

 

MarkVV
MarkVV

“Where is Obama spending all that money?

Hint: Three of the largest parts are Healthcare, Pensions and Defnse.”

Amazing new information! I am sure very few people realize that the President pays Healthcare, Pensions and Defense from his salary.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@MarkVV 

You can thank andy for it. He says Obama has a spending problem he is spending too much of our money and asked where is Obama spending our money. Only one logical place he could spend that kind of money on our budget. You can pick up on the rest at your own leisure.    

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

"That's not even good for a starter. You are nowhere close Farny to the numbers it will take to balance the budget and pay off the national."

Clue the Smithy: Remove impediments to economic growth, economy grows, government revenue goes up, deficit declines.

Tell O'Bozo.

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth Farny when has that formula worked. Citation please include link to source. 

The revenue increases of the Clinton years was due to the DOTCOM boom there where no impediments.


Waiting on citation and source link. 

MHSmith
MHSmith

No good answers to the OBAMA spending problem from the tough talking so-called small government folks. Just their regular fomentations for insignificant cuts to a huge federal budget that cannot bring balance to the budget or pay off the national debt.

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

 Family fights, usually with a man attacking a woman, are the top reason people call police. They make up anywhere from 15 to 50 percent of what police do. Sifting through the weekly reports of South King County was a bruising tour of family dysfunction: shouting matches in the streets to fist fights to battering of children with canes to assaults with knives to, every so often, homicide.


So let's burn the NFL to the ground, right?

Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

Eco-weenies = OWS

Same personal hygiene problems.

How many cop cars did they crap on?

IReportYouWhine
IReportYouWhine

F*** the Police’: Communists, Radicals Spotted Throughout Climate March in New York City Demanding ‘Revolution, Nothing Less’


Nice

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth 

You might get better results by wheeling back EPA powers and taking on the Bureau of Land Management.

But you  are still years late and trillions short.


Philo_Farnsworth
Philo_Farnsworth

"Republitarians need to answer straightforward spending questions and stop with the double talk."

OK, Smithy, how 'bouts this for starters:

Abolish the Dept. Of Education.

Reduce EPA budget by 75%.

Eliminate ethanol subsidies.

Eliminate NLRB.

Kill $1.4 trillion Obamacare expenditures.

For starters...

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Philo_Farnsworth 

That's not even good for a starter. You are nowhere close Farny to the numbers it will take to balance the budget and pay off the national. 

Your measly cuts are peanuts, they very very small parts in a very very big budget.

I want cuts in the order of 1/3 or 1/4 the of budget, real cuts not those republitarian yada yada talking points you're giving us. 


Be bold, tell America which big ticket items, Healthcare, Pensions or Defense you want to get rid, so I can watch them dump the GOP.