How Georgia Republicans can help themselves with minority voters

It appears we’re doomed to spend much of this election season talking about race and partisanship as if they’re interchangeable. Consider two recent stories.

Story 1: DeKalb and other counties announce voters this year will be able to cast their ballots on a Sunday. Given the historical ties between predominantly black churches and the Democratic Party, some Republicans accuse these counties of partisanship. Cue the accusations of GOP “racism.”

Story 2: Secretary of State Brian Kemp says he’s investigating voter-registration efforts by a group called the New Georgia Project, following complaints of forgery from several county election offices. Given the group’s emphasis on registering African-Americans, and the close ties between its leaders and Michelle Nunn’s campaign, some Democrats accuse Kemp, a Republican, of partisanship. Cue the accusations of GOP “racism.”

It’s no secret that, in Georgia as elsewhere, black voters tend to back Democratic candidates. (If you didn’t know, maybe you missed the memo to Nunn.)

Because of this link, any effort to boost registration and turnout among black voters, who historically lagged that of white Georgians but have been catching up in recent years, is seen by Republicans through a partisan lens. Democrats attribute GOP objections to race.

Likewise, Republicans are generally more focused on preventing voter fraud. Naturally, they want to shine a spotlight on mistakes by their opponents. (I say this generally, not specifically about Kemp’s official investigation.) But because their opponents’ efforts are chiefly about boosting participation by minorities to a more proportionate level, Republicans’ anti-fraud work is easily cast in a racial, rather than merely partisan, light.

It’s a poisonous cycle. And it’s up to Republicans to stop it.

Democrats won’t let up. Emphasizing the racial angle at every turn is to their benefit, even if it damages Georgia in the long run.

So Republicans must work to ensure “GOP” and “black voters” (or any other minority that traditionally votes for Democrats) don’t appear together only in stories about voting itself.

It’s not as if the Georgia GOP is without issues to sell to minority voters. Charter schools, mostly championed by Republicans in this state, benefit non-white students the most — in number of kids served as well as academic gains.

Similarly, the criminal justice reforms passed in recent years, to get nonviolent drug offenders out of prisons and back into productive roles in society, are more likely to benefit non-white Georgians — if only because, fairly or not, they were disproportionately likely to be jailed under the old laws.

Instead of complaining Sunday voting will hurt Republicans by boosting black turnout, why not take the argument to black voters that backing Republicans can lead to more such reforms?

Do that, and it’d take some of the racial implications out of claims of fraud if and when they come. Or, at a minimum, balance them.

The state GOP has begun reaching out to minorities. Some local branches — the Fulton GOP comes to mind — are further along. But the tentative nature of most of these efforts suggest a belief this can be a long-term project, that results aren’t needed immediately.

This year’s election is shaping up differently. Republicans can’t quickly make up ground they didn’t cover in previous years. But they can stop making matters worse.

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Doug_B
Doug_B

"Republicans are generally more focused on preventing voter fraud"


Tell us, oh sage one, why does the GOP focus so much on voter fraud?  It wouldn't be because they think African-Americans are the primary perpetrators, would it?


The goal should be 100% voter participation.  Any attempt to register more voters should be a good thing.  We've got voter ID now, so we know that the person who shows up at the poll is the person they say they are at the address they say they're at.  What more do you want?

cw1960
cw1960

ITT: the brown people are voting! Gotta do something to stop that! (but until we do, let's see if we can trick a few of them into voting for us)

Wascatlady
Wascatlady

How can they help themselves with minority voters?  KEEP THEIR STUPID MOUTHS SHUT!  That is their ONLY HOPE!

gotalife
gotalife

Any minority voting gop is a self defeatist because the gop attack them. 72% do not approve of the gop. drudge is one giant fear card and the rw are cowards. Pure and simple. Unhinged cowards.They lost their minds to fear.

MHSmith
MHSmith

I like how you write columns with very clear well thought out points which seem to completely go over the heads of your readers, Kyle.


But they "CAN'T" stop making matters worse.

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

"By the way whites receive more "Free Stuff"(assistance) from government than blacks."


True. But there are also roughly 6 times more whites than blacks so why would that surprise anyone?

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@MHSmith @ThulsaDoom


That is because of perception. People intuitively know that as a percentage of the welfare population that minorities constitute a much higher percentage of that population than they do of the general population at large. But because the majority white population is so much larger people don't notice that the white population in absolute numbers may still have more people on welfare. Last I saw the welfare population was 38% white, 37% black, 20% Hispanic, and so on. Not surprising considering whites still make up over 70% of the general population. 

HeadleyLamar
HeadleyLamar

@ThulsaDoom @MHSmith No its not. Or not suprising Blacks make up such a large percentage given the obvious disadvantages they have faced throughout this countries history. The effects of Slavery and Segregation don't go away in a single generation.

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@DebbieDoRight @ThulsaDoom @MHSmith


And the reality and statistics are that as a percentage of the population blacks are far more likely to be on welfare than whites. That is the reality of the DATA and STATISTICS. For example it would be like looking at a group of 72 people(whites) who have 7 people out of their group of 72 on welfare. And then comparing that group to say, a group of 13 people (blacks), who only have 6 people on welfare. The blacks have less overall people on welfare, but as a percentage of their population they are far, far more likely to be on welfare. It is what it is and the numbers do not lie. 


Progs and stats- the 2 just don't go together. 

HDB0329
HDB0329

@Captain-Obvious Slavery hasn't ended....if you're WORKING for the MONEY rather than the MONEY WORKING for YOU...you're in slavery......

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@Wascatlady @ThulsaDoom @MHSmith


By about 2050 I think it is whites are projected to be under 50% of the population. And that's IF current birthrates stay the same, which is no sure thing. As Hispanics become more entrenched and successful in 2nd and 3rd generations their birthrates will likely decline. Which will be a good thing since everyone will then be a minority and we can then completely do away with affirmative action. At that point everyone can be judged by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. I'm certain you'll be on board with that right?

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@ThulsaDoom --  The reality is YOU don't want to believe what your eyes are seeing.  You'd RATHER believe that's its a lie.


Say -- remember those 'skewered" polls that were "leaning left" in 2010? (snicker)

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@HeadleyLamar @ThulsaDoom @MHSmith


Hedley,


Affirmative action and desegregation have been around since around 1970 so we're heading near the half century mark since blacks have had full rights and affirmative action. Its time to step up to the plate and quit complaining about injustices done long ago. Many poor Asians whose ancestors started off as indentured servants working on railroads have had amazing success. As have many more recent Asians who came to this country poor and who are now having a great deal of success. Either they are successful because of their cultural values and work ethic or they simply forgot to get the memo that minorities are still terribly discriminated against and destined to fail cause "the man" has it set up that way. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@Captain-Obvious - "Uh, in case you missed it, Headley, slavery ended about7 generations ago, and segregation more than 2 generations ago."


But yet here we are talking about the GOP putting down the brown people , (again), and trying to stop due process of blacks voting rights, (again).


Slavery may have ended; but all Jim Crow did was change his name from Jim to James.  Now he' James Crowe Esquire.


Same thing, different name.

HDB0329
HDB0329

@ThulsaDoom "....... everyone will then be a minority and we can then completely do away with affirmative action...."


You mean like how white people are crying "reverse racism"...even though they are still maintaining POWER?? Like how white people are saying "take our country BACK"??


Sorry to say that the largest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action have been WHITE WOMEN!!

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@ThulsaDoom @Wascatlady "As Hispanics become more entrenched and successful in 2nd and 3rd generations their birthrates will likely decline."


Yeah...........right................ as read from the book of "Republican, How We HOPE Things Are And Not What They Really Are"; Chapter 4 verse 5 subparagraph 9

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@Captain-Obvious  -- "Just because you're complaining about it, doesn't mean it actually exists, Debbie."


Ha!  Hey, Capt. O -- did you even bother to READ Kyle's blog that he wrote today? 


"You liberals can manufacture crises better than any group known to mankind. "


Wonder who manufactures "Voter Fraud" every election cycle?  (snicker)

MHSmith
MHSmith

@ThulsaDoom You'd be surprised at how many people would be surprised and still deny it. 

HDB0329
HDB0329

@ThulsaDoom "......we're heading near the half century mark since blacks have had full rights..."


Doomy....it's going to take longer than 50 years to counteract over 500 YEARS for black people being enslaved!! Remember: Asians were allowed to accumulate wealth in this nation whereas black people were persistently marginalized in creating and maintaining wealth! RE: "Black Wall Street".......

HDB0329
HDB0329

@DebbieDoRight .....and who created "voter suppression" for the upcoming election cycles???

HDB0329
HDB0329

@Captain-Obvious Start with the banks and the persistent redlining in black neighborhoods and the refusal to lend capital for business start-ups; continue with the GOP whose policies are antithetical to the black community.....


There's the beginning........

HDB0329
HDB0329

@Captain-Obvious Ask those parents who took their children out of public schools and created PRIVATE schools so that their children would not be educated with minority children......those parents forced segregation onto the public schools.....

MHSmith
MHSmith

@ThulsaDoom @MHSmith Anyway you want to dance with this thing my comment was on the money and you know it. You are not improving your standing by prolonging your explaination. 

As they say in politics, when you have to explain yourself you've lost.  

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

You and JDW need help understanding the difference between a moocher program and an entitlement program that one paid into all their life. I just can't make it any simpler for you. 

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@HDB0329 @ThulsaDoom


Nope. There are many new immigrant classes to this country who started off with nothing and within 2 generations were doing just fine. Also, looking through this nation's history we have a history replete with examples of numerous peoples from Europe- the Italians, Jews, Irish, and others who came to this country in the early part of last century with little to nothing. Within a couple of generations those peoples were advancing rapidly. A good segment of the black population has made good gains. The segment that hasn't advanced has failed to do so more due to internal factors than any racial boogeyman. 

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@TheRealJDW @ThulsaDoom @DebbieDoRight @MHSmith


Misleading stat and here's why. The stat includes entitlement transfers such as social security benefits and Medicare, which we all pay into. Whites are probably getting a lot more out of SS but that's a program that we pay into. They're just getting back what they paid in. Additionally, they are probably getting back more out of SS because if whites have traditionally paid more into the program due to higher incomes.


Entitlement programs which you paid into your whole life are different from anti-poverty programs which are simply giveaway money. 


I'm surprised that your mind was incapable of understanding the distinction. One is just a moocher program. The other is something paid into where you are simply getting back what you paid into it.  

MHSmith
MHSmith

@ThulsaDoom @MHSmith There a saying in politics about when you have to continue explaining yourself that says it means you've lost.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@ThulsaDoom - "Misleading stat and here's why. "


Like I said, refuses to believe what your eyes are telling ya!  Priceless!

Kyle_Wingfield
Kyle_Wingfield moderator

On a previous thread, people complained about getting logged out by the system and having to sign back in. I figured I'd answer it here since most people are watching this thread now.


I asked about it, and all I can say is our IT folks are aware of it. No ETA on any kind of a fix, I'm afraid.

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

"Democrats attribute GOP objections to race."


Of course they do. Race hustling is what the Dems do. Its how they roll. 

Captain–Obvious
Captain–Obvious

@ThulsaDoom Many GOP candidates make themselves all too easy targets.  Ya wanna not be branded a racist?  Simple - don't be a racist.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@ThulsaDoom "Race hustling is what the Dems do. Its how they roll. "


Willie Horton Says "What?"  And Race Baiting as a political strategy is the GOP signature. 

blah blah blah
blah blah blah

@D_Lucy @ThulsaDoom Wrong, racist are the ones NOT giving free stuff away.  And what ever you don't ask them to do their fair share then for sure you're RACIST... 

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@HDB0329 @ThulsaDoom


Seriously??? Is that the best example of racism you got? - a Lakeland, FL. utility board member that nobody has ever heard of? Geez loweez. You're reaching HDB. Really reaching. 

ThulsaDoom
ThulsaDoom

@DebbieDoRight @ThulsaDoom


I'll counter Willie Horton with Al Sharpton, Jessie "hymietown" Jackson, and Louis the Jewhater Farrakhan. Its all over but the shouting. 

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@ThulsaDoom --  "I'll counter Willie Horton with Al Sharpton, Jessie "hymietown" Jackson, and Louis the Jewhater Farrakhan."


Quick question -- Does Farrakhan represent the DMC or does he even represent ALL BLACK people?


2 .  Was "Hymie Town" part of a nationalized campaign ad ran on television and representing the DMC?


3.  Has Al Sharpton, in his capacity as activist, EVER represented the DMC? 


If your answer is "No" to any of those questions, as it should be, then you don't have a case. 


"Its all over but the shouting."


I'll say.  (eyes:rolling)

Gunluvr
Gunluvr

What's the point? Black voters have made up their minds who they're going to vote for and it's not Nathan Deal or David Perdue. Leave the status quo alone. Nothing's going to  change in the big picture anyway. Whomever gets 50+ 1% will take all of GA's 159 counties. So it doesn't really matter if black voters vote on a Tuesday or a Sunday, the results will be the same regardless on Wednesday.

DebbieDoRight
DebbieDoRight

@Gunluvr  -  "Black voters have made up their minds who they're going to vote for and it's not Nathan Deal or David Perdue."



Well I hope you mention that fact to Herman Cain!  Imagine, he's just going to vote for a Dem!  (eyes:rolling)

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS


How Georgia Republicans can help themselves with minority voters?



This is easy...not rocket science.
Talk to minority voters and not at them....see how easy that was?

CherokeeCounty
CherokeeCounty

@Chris30338 @AnsweredTHIS 

Absolutely.

Everytime someone says that the Dems only win because they bribe the welfare queens, republicans lose votes.  Very insulting.

Love the new format Kyle - sorry for the extra work it causes you.  But the results are obvious - lots of comments, with people on both sides passionately expressing their views, but without the personal insults.

Chris30338
Chris30338

@AnsweredTHIS Or talk down to them. Like telling them the only reason they vote for Democratic candidates because they want "Free stuff".

MHSmith
MHSmith

@Chris30338 @AnsweredTHIS Or, insinuate they are too dumb to vote or claim they are committing fraud when they haven't, while blacks notice how few times whites are ever accused of committing such fraud.

The bias is very obvious.  

Visual_Cortex
Visual_Cortex

@Chris30338 @AnsweredTHIS Yeah, the regularity with which -- well, maybe not actual elected officials, but their supporters on the right -- casually use grotesquely offensive terms like "liberal plantation" or "race hustling", would leave one to believe that the GOP is fine and dandy with it.